What are conservatives... for?

If my corporate mob kings were interested in improving society in some way, I'd be the first to offer up my worship.

Every corporate "king" was elected by consumers for producing things monumentally beneficial to society, not by divine right.

It's not much of an "election" when people don't even know what they're voting for.

If I borrow money from my rich friends and I use that money to "sponsor legislation" that basically puts my competition out of business, and then I lock up the markets so I basically have a captive audience, are those customers really "voting" for me?

It's not much of an "election" when people don't even know what they're voting for.

Do you shop with your eyes closed?

Do you buy products made in CHINA?

Yes because in the grand scheme of things, I don't care about global warming or the pollution of the Pacific Ocean more than I care about my immediate environment.

CHINA is a major threat to FREE-SPEECH on planet earth.

Washington D.C. is the larger and more immediate threat to me personally.

How would you generally and objectively quantify their purported "interest in improving society in some way"?

Or do you just take their word for it?

I think some of them used briberies and political manipulation. For example how drug companies hate competition, so they petitioned for laws that make competition impossible by making drug manufacturing cost billions to bring to market.

By their results. Currently they are not improving the world. The world is proving but it is in spite of them not because of them

That's why I believe in punishing politicians who get bad results for example. After their term take a look at some factors that would determine if society has proved or not. If not, put them in prison as a traitor. This would incentify politicians to have the correct motives. 

I would judge success on a metric such as by measuring happiness levels of the population as a whole. 

(IFF) you judge someone's intentions by their results (THEN) you won't know if you've made a mistake until it's already too late.

Monopolies are nearly impossible in a capitalistic society.

I would judge success on a metric such as by measuring happiness levels of the population as a whole. 

Adam Smith said intentions are both predictable and inconsequential.

I'm sure you meant to say, "Monopolies are INEVITABLE in a capitalistic society".

That is too bad, since most people haven't been sold on the idea that they don't need an oligarchy to tell them how to be happy.

Not really, because in the information age, monopolies require government intervention to become and maintain a monopoly.

Yes, they literally paid politicians to bring in the national guard to prevent unionization at one point, and would have had a lot of competition if not for government intervention. You should read up on their history

They pretty much strong armed everybody to build the business as well. In a capitalist society that would not be allowed. The goal of a free market is competition. We can always look at how much market share businesses had prior to and after market regulation to see if your theory is correct. If your theory that free markets create monopolies and that centrally planned economies eliminate them and foster competition we can look to history to see if that is true. 


1. Before the FDA existed there was a massive amount of mom and pop grocers and food producers. After big businesses paid politicians to create the FDA, we now get most of our foods from just 5 food producers. 


2. Before FDR put massive regulations on banks, 80% of banking was done by small banks, now it is mostly done with big banks. 


3. Once the automotive industry faced heavy regulation we stopped seeing 20 car manufacturers who competed with ford and now it is almost impossible to start a car company, unless you are Elon musk and can afford to lose billions for 10 years straight. 

You can't have it both ways. Either capitalism creates an unregulated wild wild west of small businesses that prey on people and need to be stiffly regulated or capitalism creates monopolies that control everything. Socialists in the age of FDR would be mocking you for thinking unregulated markets have less competition than regulated ones.