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@3RU7AL
How do you QUANTIFY intentions?
This isn't a deposition. You got to get to the point.
Send Trumpet To Jail Now
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Authority doesn't move that fast. Trust Authority
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@Death23
How do you QUANTIFY intentions?This isn't a deposition. You got to get to the point.
Yes, you've convinced me that any legal or moral framework that relies on detecting INTENTIONS is functionally indistinguishable from witchcraft.
By your "consequentialist" view, nobody should ever be convicted of accidentally or unintentionally committing a crime.
Isn't that one of the KEY legal obstacles to convicting TRUMP of many of his CRIMES?
It's been argued that the Georgia phone call was NOT criminal if TRUMP sincerely believes that he really and truly WON.
This would magically transform the phone call from being an implicit demand for falsifying vote tallies into an honest and sincere plea for "THE TRUTH".
ALSO,
There was a case a few years ago where a police officer accidentally entered a neighbor's apartment, mistakenly thinking it was their own apartment and mistook their neighbor for an INTRUDER and shot them dead.
Their legal defense argued that it was not a crime because the officer sincerely believed their neighbor was an intruder.
Police are protected by a legal doctrine called "qualified immunity" which states that (IFF) the office believed at the time that what they were doing was perfectly legal, (THEN) their case can be dismissed. [LINK]
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@3RU7AL
I didn't say intentions were the only thing that mattered.
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@TheUnderdog
Why do you think Trump supporters should be jailed? Your talking about jailing roughly half the country. Seems extreme.
As my mother always stated, where there's a will, there's a way. Of course the will cannot violate inviolate cosmic laws/principles.
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@ebuc
Trust Con-gress to take care of things.
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@Greyparrot
Trust Con-gress to take care of things.
I trust those sick-n-head, Trumpet republicans, and you, about as far as I could throw one of them,or you, and that's not very far.
You still speaking Orange parrot nonsense, cause you have nothing valid to say in regards to Trump. Oh thats right four years later you finally stated somehting the other day. I gave you point 1 out of five for whatever it was. I may have been too generous with you. Jail Trumpet and his supporters NOW!
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@ebuc
Side with the Con-gress.
They will destroy the Con-man.
Trust Authority.
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@Greyparrot
You Trumpet and his supporters are the largest con in USA ergo your still speaking orange parrot nonsense. Sad :--(
I trust those sick-n-head, Trumpet republicans, and you, about as far as I could throw one of them,or you, and that's not very far.
You still speaking Orange parrot nonsense, cause you have nothing valid to say in regards to Trump. Oh thats right four years later you finally stated something the other day. I gave you point 1 out of five for whatever it was. I may have been too generous with you. Jail Trumpet and his supporters NOW!
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@ebuc
Yes yes!
Support the Con-gress!
Jail the Con-man!
5 out of 5 for trusting Authority.
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@ebuc
Not everyone who disagrees with you is "an idiot".
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@Death23
I didn't say intentions were the only thing that mattered.
What's more important than intention when determining the "morality" of an act or event in a consequentialist framework?
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@3RU7AL
Not everyone who disagrees with you is "an idiot".
Thats ture 3r, but I dont recall calling anyone an idiot recently, and it doesent mean that some portion of your "everybody" does not have idiotic tendencies with their oppinnions.
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@Greyparrot
I trust those sick-n-head, Trumpet republicans, and you, about as far as I could throw one of them,or you, and that's not very far.
You still speaking Orange parrot nonsense, cause you have nothing valid to say in regards to Trump. Oh thats right four years later you finally stated something the other day. I gave you point 1 out of five for whatever it was. I may have been too generous with you. Jail Trumpet and his supporters NOW!
Orange parrot still a nonsense tooter
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@ebuc
Not everyone who disagrees with you is "an idiot".
Not everyone who disagrees with you should be "thrown in prison".
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@3RU7AL
3r, your confused. No where have I stated what your suggesting. stick to truth and facts and your make more rational, logical common sense.
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@ebuc
3r, your confused. No where have I stated what your suggesting. stick to truth and facts and your make more rational, logical common sense.
Do you remember when you stated,
Jail Trumpet and his supporters NOW!
Do you consider it a CRIME to vote for TRUMP?
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@ebuc
The only way you could jail Trump supporters is to increase the police budget drastically (so much for giving police less money), you would need substantial increases to the prison budget, it is a complete violation of the 1st and 8th amendment. Trump supporters are not being jailed, and they shouldn’t be.
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@TheUnderdog
They can't even jail people in Seattle for taking a shit in front of the courthouse. What a laugh.
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@3RU7AL
If socialism worked, bike lock manufacturers would have been out of a job long ago.
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@3RU7AL
#131 3ru..."Not everyone who disagrees with you is "an idiot"."
Your stll confused and lacking rational, logical commmon sense truths and fact as related to you #131 post to which I replied and reply again,
3r, your confused. No where have I stated what your suggesting. stick to truth and facts and your make more rational, logical common sense.
You mislead in post #135 by attempting to take your #131 comments an install them as a quote by ebuc in #135 That is false, misldeading and immoral unless you just made and error.
Stick to addressing 131 and 135. thats where your head needs to be. Start by getting your head on straight and that means not making false and misleading posts as you did in 131 and 135.
Death never did address the contradictions I brought to his attention. He has run off hid to avoid ego death.
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@TheUnderdog
The only way you could jail Trump supporters is to increase the police budget drastically (so much for giving police less money), you would need substantial increases to the prison budget, it is a complete violation of the 1st and 8th amendment. Trump supporters are not being jailed, and they shouldn’t be.
Where there is a will there is a way. thank you Mom for the many good teaching you gave me. Inviolate cosmic laws/principles of course cannot be violated.
This is above is simple rational, logical common sense.
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@ebuc
Where there is a will there is a way.
Lol, police can't do shit.
To stop public shitting.
People calling for Trump to be impeached or put in jail are idiots. Who exactly is going to jail Trump when half the country thinks he was a good president?
It is amazing that TDS has caused Democrats not to remember the weeks of cities burning and police stations occupied and people and police officers being killed. But a handful of people being let into the Capitol one day - is treason on Trump. What hypocracy.
TRUMP 2024!
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@ethang5
handful of people being let into the Capitol one day - is treason on Trump
Trump caused an angry mob to attack the capitol. The pre-march rhetoric suggests that it was probably purposeful. (e.g. "trial by combat" "show strength" "be strong") Not sure if that's treason or not, but it's pretty close.
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@Death23
If this were true, several top Democrats would be in jail.
Only in Nazi state run by people besotted with TDS would innocuous phrases like, "show strength" and "be strong" be equated with treason. Americans just will not take the left's hysteria anymore. What Trump did was show 78 million Americans that they didn't have to take it anymore.
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@ethang5
You ignored the "trial by combat" part. Address that one.
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@ethang5
My doubts about what he did constituting treason have to do with whether or not causing an angry mob to attack a federal building constitutes an act of war. It doesn't seem to be a very warlike thing to me. If they had lots of bombs and guns and had used them, then maybe it would be.
If you read my prior posts here I made it pretty clear that I don't think arresting and prosecuting Trump is in our national interests because healing and unity is required. Dispassionate factualism is important to that too. People get lost in echo chambers and are dealing with completely different sets of facts. The truth is the common ground, and if we deny ourselves that then we're never going to be agreeing on much. Look at what you're doing. You're focusing on two statements, ignoring the third, and not considering the whole context. Trump knew they were angry. Trump knew they believed the election was stolen. Trump sent them to the capitol. What happened was easily foreseeable and Trump didn't seem to take any steps to prevent it. In fact, according to a report from a GoP senator, Trump was "delighted" by what was happening.
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@drafterman
You ignored the "trial by combat" part. Address that one.
"trial by combat" is a quote from Rudy Giuliani that has been inserted next to two statements implicitly attributed to Donald Trump.