Send Trumpet To Jail Now

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@FLRW
Maybe Trump could be locked in a bunker with Melania?
No, He should be isolataed from all direct human contact.  Melania,  like him and at at least two thirds of his USA supporters should all have some degree of moral education regarding truth in while in some degree of incarceration.  Incarceration reflects consequences even it were to become a regular policy of global united government.

He should have moral education about truth taught to him by all of the women he dispised --if they so choose-- and when the women ask for mens assistance only then should men be involved in his moral re-education in the bunker. 

In the Iroqui nation, women chose the male chief.  Men should sit quietly until the women ask them to speak. 

Female manages me { male }

Males { time } move with womens  discretion to do so on matters that effect more than than just the male local sphere of influence.  The women majority or  two thirds vote, or whatever  and the men then accept the vote.
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@3RU7AL
I agree with what you're saying but the nation needs to heal and move forward. That is more important than punishing Trump. If we put him on trial for whatever, prosecute and imprison or execute him - What do you think that's going to do? Create a public spectacle that will keep open and festering the wounds Trump has caused. That's not a future that I want. I think we're better off just letting him go.
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I think we're better off just letting him go.
This is twice youve contradicted you statement in post #40.  I think you may be a confused extremist.
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This is twice youve contradicted you statement in post #40.  I think you may be a confused extremist.
First of all, I didn't contradict myself. Second of all, the fact that you're alleging a contradiction and focusing on that allegation rather than addressing the gravamen of my argument indicates that you are unable to articulate a cogent response to it.

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Oh noes!

What happens if we DO NOTHING?

What do you think that's going to do?

Create a public spectacle that will keep open and festering the wounds Trump has caused.

This man-baby is going to keep causing as much trouble as they possibly can.

JUST TO GET MORE ATTENTION.  THAT'S ALL THEY WANT.  THEY SIMPLY WANT TO WIN THE ATTENTION WAR.

Should we stop prosecuting drug-lord-king-pins because it might put too many families out of a job?

I'm not "prescribing" any specific "punishment".

I'm just saying, FIGURE OUT WHAT ACTUAL CRIMES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED AND APPLY THE EXACT SAME PUNISHMENT THAT YOU OR I WOULD GET FOR THAT EXACT SAME CRIME.
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indicates that you are [EITHER] unable [OR UNWILLING] to articulate a cogent response to it.

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K. Hypothetical - The death star is pointed at earth, ready to fire. If we punish Trump, the death star will fire and it will be the end of earth, humanity, everything. Would you still think that we should send Trump to jail? I think not.

At what point are the consequences too great that it's just not worth it and we should just let him go?
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First of all, I didn't contradict myself.
Yes you did and Ive pointed it out out you twice.   This is the kind of false narrative Trumpet and his cronies have been doing for past four years.

I suspect you voted for Trump or condoned his false narratives at one time or another And you have not yet addressed the specific contradictory comments.

Address those specific contradicitons Ive mentioned or please do not respond to any more comments by me in this thread.
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@ebuc
Shut up.
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Shut up
A brilliant response if I've ever seen one.
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Tu quoque is a fallacy and off topic. That's all he wants to talk about.
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@Death23
Then point out the fallacy while dismantling the off-topic, it isn't useful to just tell people to shut up, instead point out their fallacies.
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@Theweakeredge
What's the point? He already knows it's off-topic and annoyance at the focus on an off-topic issue I already pointed that out in post 94 and he doubled down.
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@Death23
Debates or even conversations are rarely held to convince the other person, and they rarely do - even if one side has solidly won - but to convince others around you of your beliefs and opinions. Not to mention it shows that you aren't just hand-waving things away, so whenever you later on reference the other parties behavior you have clear points you can quote and show your response was logical.
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@Theweakeredge
Debates or even conversations are rarely held to convince the other person, and they rarely do - even if one side has solidly won - but to convince others around you of your beliefs and opinions.
I don't know if you've noticed but I don't care much for appearances or convincing the crowd. These things don't motivate me. I'm disturbed by divisiveness and post-truth politics, and sometimes I have a vendetta.
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the question is, WHY DID THE TRUPPIES STORM THE CASTLE?

the answer is, BECAUSE THEY LACK FAITH IN THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM.
the answer is because they believe there was widespread fraud and that the election was illegitimate. They believe that because trump and groups like fox and news max say it constantly even though it is all lies. 

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Mmm, you do you
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TBH I told him to shut up because he said I voted for Trump or bought in to his conspiracy theories even though he has 1k+ posts here. Total lie. Anyone who knows me here would know that I’m one of the most anti-Trump people on these forums.
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the question is, WHY DID THE TRUPPIES STORM THE CASTLE?

the answer is, BECAUSE THEY LACK FAITH IN THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM.
the answer is because they believe there was widespread fraud and that the election was illegitimate. They believe that because trump and groups like fox and news max say it constantly even though it is all lies. 
You say tomayto, I say tomahto.

You're not doing a very good job of contradicting me.
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At what point are the consequences too great that it's just not worth it and we should just let him go?
Are you familiar with the concept of deontological ethics?
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the answer is because they believe there was widespread fraud and that the election was illegitimate. They believe that because trump and groups like fox and news max say it constantly even though it is all lies. 
Also,

Are you maybe perhaps, pro-censorship?
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Are you familiar with the concept of deontological ethics?
Consequentialism is better
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Are you familiar with the concept of deontological ethics?
Consequentialism is better
There was a farmer who one day left his stable door ajar and his horse wandered away.

His neighbor notes, "it is a terrible thing that you forgot to secure your stable, for now you have lost your only horse."

The farmer doesn't reply.

A few days later his horse returned with a wild horse.

His neighbor is surprised and exclaims, "it is a wonderful thing that you forgot to secure your stable! Because now you have two horses!"

The farmer doesn't reply.

A week later the farmer's son is training the new horse and is thrown onto a rock and breaks his leg.

The neighbor sympathetically comments, "it is a terrible thing that you forgot to secure your stable, because now your son is lame."

The farmer doesn't reply.

The next year their king declares war and forcibly recruits all of the able bodied young men to fight.

The neighbor chuckles, "it is a wonderful thing that you forgot to secure your stable, because your son, being lame, will not have to face the horrors of battle."

The farmer doesn't reply.
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Because the future is uncertain, one should evaluate decisions based on the probability of outcomes as opposed to the outcomes themselves.
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Because the future is uncertain, one should evaluate decisions based on the probability of outcomes as opposed to the outcomes themselves.
How do you QUANTIFY "the probability of outcomes"?

Don't you ACTUALLY mean, "the road to hell is paved with GOOD INTENTIONS"?
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How do you QUANTIFY "the probability of outcomes"?
It depends on the situation. If we're at a casino the outcomes become very quantifiable. If we're doing sports betting it starts to get a bit fuzzier. And when you have a confrontation on the street you just got to start eyeballing based on your life experiences. Unfortunately many situations aren't quantifiable and have to be eyeballed.

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How do you QUANTIFY "the probability of outcomes"?
It depends on the situation. If we're at a casino the outcomes become very quantifiable. If we're doing sports betting it starts to get a bit fuzzier. And when you have a confrontation on the street you just got to start eyeballing based on your life experiences. Unfortunately many situations aren't quantifiable and have to be eyeballed.
So, it boils down to INTENTION?
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@3RU7AL
Not sure what you’re getting at, but intentions are a big factor in culpability.
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@ebuc
You and the other your immoral Trumpet  tooters need to be jailed.
Why do you think Trump supporters should be jailed?  Your talking about jailing roughly half the country.  Seems extreme.
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Not sure what you’re getting at, but intentions are a big factor in culpability.
How do you QUANTIFY intentions?