Crimes Mafia - DP2

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@drafterman
It's literally a cut and paste.
Ever heard of a joke?
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@Danielle
I'm pretty sure Lunatic doesn't smoke weed IRL so he is probably telling the truth, but let me reiterate that Supa giving him weed proves nothing. Supa could easily be scum, especially if there is no theme split and he's the one who was kinda persistent that there was no theme split. 
1. You're a bit too high yourself during live mafia if you haven't picked up on the fact that Lunatic is often high during the games ;)
2. The bolded is definitely true, but also Lunatic could be scum. It's pretty clear Supa is the inventor or something to that effect. Lunatic could be mafia that got an invention, Supa could be a mafia inventor, they could both be mafia.
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@Speedrace
Sure, you going to tell one?
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@Danielle
I can't edit my last post but just to clarify, pot does not make everyone lazy  *takes a hit at 9:21 am* 
Daaaaamn Daniel(le)
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@warren42
lol @ damn Daniel. 

I agree Luna could also be scum. I'm just saying Supa giving him an item doesn't necessarily prove him town (Supa seemed to believe it town confirmed him and/or Luna when it does neither). I now town read Supa a bit more just because it would be a lil bit bastard to give scum a role where they don't know how it works. 

Ps. IT'S MEDICINAL 
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@Danielle
There are others, LSD, cocaine
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Also, one rather obvious reason why mafia wouldn't NK me: they think they can get me mislynched. So maybe look at the people who can out of the gate trying to lynch me?
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@Vader
You can't figure out what those things do? Lol that is very endearing actually. 

Well you're town. Who do you want to pressure? 
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It's not lost on me that warren did not answer what I specifically asked him and tagged him for. 
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@Danielle
Also I absolutely want warren to answer this from last day phase. He disappeared after I posted: Once again I am wondering the point of you asking me questions about my win con when #1 the OP clarifies that no win con = town, so even if I were scum I'd  know how to answer this question and #2 there has already been discussion about how detailed or explicit the roles are to characters. Deciding to go into a deep dive about my PM analysis therefore seems like a waste of time at this point, or a way to look like you're investigating something thoroughly when scum is not going to get caught with these questions. You should have done this with people that posted much earlier. Explain your reason for going along with this line of questioning.   
I was hoping that since you had been the last person to hop on you'd be in a rush to catch up and miss that if you were scum, just assuming your PM has a wincon in it. Low probability but nothing was really happening so figured why not
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Why tf do y’all wake up so early

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@Lunatic
Thoughts on drafter?
Still sus of the claim that he’s town yet a mafia role 
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She is parroting my advice to another mafia player from another game.
Oh
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@drafterman
Lunatic is lying about claim. There isn’t a crime called “corruption”.
This is false.


Control + F corruption in state laws.
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@Danielle
I agree Luna could also be scum. I'm just saying Supa giving him an item doesn't necessarily prove him town (Supa seemed to believe it town confirmed him and/or Luna when it does neither). I now town read Supa a bit more just because it would be a lil bit bastard to give scum a role where they don't know how it works. 
I agree with this. I think Supa is probably town. Lunatic also has some town points since he was roleblocked and there was a night kill, that means that he didn't carry the kill, I guess theoretically halving his likelihood of being scum, all else equal
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@Vader
Can I have LSD? Sounds like it might be a fun item
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@Danielle
Good morning!!! And I do mean good morning since GA Republicans are getting buried <3 
Your boi Chuck must be a happy man 😂
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@Speedrace
Besides the behavioral stuff, the fact that Drafter said he has a role that mafia can have means mafia had ALL the incentive in the world to kill him because the roles fitting that description are all very powerful for town. Given the fact that he didn't die, either scum didn't bother reading the DP/are bad players, or drafter himself is scum
Or they wanted to mislynch him which is also a possibility 
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It's not lost on me that warren did not answer what I specifically asked him and tagged him for. 
I'm at work most of my posts are being written in the 10-second increments I get between calls or while the pages are loading. (I have two interviews for real jobs where I'm not wasting my degree though, hopefully I get one!)
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It's a Wednesday and most of us are adults with jobs
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@Vader
Drafter is lying. I gave Lunatic weed
Lying about what?
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@ILikePie5
So is he corruption by threat of harm against a public servant? Corruption bribery? Corruption of public resources? Something else? All of them?

I stand by my assertion that "corruption" is a generic term that doesn't refer to some specific crime. That's not say the word doesn't appear at all in the legal code, just that it isn't a narrow thing as opposed to prostitution or murder or disrupting the peace.

And, to be clear, I'm not suggesting that we have to be a specific, individual crime, as according to some code (e.g. Murder in some specific degree) but I think it's fair to admit that a term that covers misusing resources, bribing people, and threatening to assault them, is a fairly broad umbrella.

It stands out and was worth probing, imo.
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@Vader
Do I need to explain myself. It should be obvious what my role is. I can confirm I gave Lunatic the weed so he is not lying
This makes no sense lol. I’m assuming u could give weed to both town and scum?
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@drafterman
Corruption bribery?
Sounds familiar to me
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I think most sensible people would just call that "bribery."
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So is he corruption by threat of harm against a public servant? Corruption bribery? Corruption of public resources? Something else? All of them?

I stand by my assertion that "corruption" is a generic term that doesn't refer to some specific crime. That's not say the word doesn't appear at all in the legal code, just that it isn't a narrow thing as opposed to prostitution or murder or disrupting the peace.

And, to be clear, I'm not suggesting that we have to be a specific, individual crime, as according to some code (e.g. Murder in some specific degree) but I think it's fair to admit that a term that covers misusing resources, bribing people, and threatening to assault them, is a fairly broad umbrella.

It stands out and was worth probing, imo.
This is also true. I agree with it. The roleblock is the only reason I'm feeling decent about lunatic, else I'd probably be scumreading him a little bit
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@drafterman
If I told you I would claim after Congress certifies the electoral votes would you then rush to DC to stop it?
Huh
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@drafterman
I think most sensible people would just call that "bribery."
I think Bullish wouldn’t have made it a point to say characters were crimes in at least one jurisdiction in the United States if he wasn’t going to be specific.
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@warren42
And yet you refused to pressure him. So you don't get to agree with it. You had your chance to agree with it and you felt it was more worth your time to be contrarian.
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@ILikePie5
Huh
I was riffing on warren's apparent decision to do the exact opposite of anything I suggested.