Anime Waifus Mafia DP2

 I'd much rather rally behind a lynch this DP than fail to do so

But sub optimal plays are equivalent to random plays and are unpredictable; you can't account for them ahead of time.

All you can do is expect that other players are going to play to the best of their ability.

I'm not getting lynched today.

The difference is, I can't be lynched today.

I don't understand the question

If he was town and was suspicious of Pie, he should have redirected pie onto himself.

If he was town and was suspicious of Pie, he should have redirected pie onto himself.

oh shit you can do that?

What about pie going after speed in the day made you want to redirect him to croc?

I'm saying that that behavior doesn't come solely from misreads. WP doesn't play this game in a way that most of us would. I'm not saying that's a free ticket for him to behave however he wants, though I haven't seen any solid discrepancies in his behavior that separate him from previous games where he was town. It's an odd role, he used it in an odd way, and surprisingly got what he wanted. I don't see how this is obvious scum play, and if he had a scum partner who was trying to guide him, I don't see why they'd push him to do this. 

ya but it's an anti-town role so since i thought you were scum i redirected your kill onto the most anti-town person in my opinion. i thought he was heavily lean town but the fact that he's an anti town role makes it so that i'd pick him to redirect to rather than any of you.

no, i selected pie because he was against speed but i didn't think he'd try to kill speed because there were still a lot of people against and for speed making him still suspicious and not a good nk option.

I understand that Croc wasn't the best redirect target, but that's true whether he's a townie or mafia. Frankly, I buy that it at least makes more sense for it to be a townie move coming from WP. The reasoning isn't great, but if a scum partner was giving him directions, I honestly can't fathom why he'd choose to redirect to Croc instead of hitting a possible power role. Eliminating the Hated townie doesn't really accomplish much for them. Sure, there's some risk involved, but that still seems like the obviously better move, especially when there were so many of us talking about lynching Croc early.

Alright, so now we're back to assuming the motivations. Let's do that. 

If he's town and he redirected, then he was suspicious of Pie and sought to redirect him. In terms of targets, he probably had no clue whether anyone else was town or mafia. His choices were: 

1) to blindly select someone from the rest of the group, hope they were mafia, and target to them, or

2) to pick the known Hated townie, who was unlikely to be of much use the rest of the game and may become a policy elimination later

If he's mafia, then he believed that Pie was town, redirected him to Croc (the known townie) with the aim of showing up innocent. That's possible, and if that happened then clearly the fact that the redirect was reported to Pie gave away the game. 

Fine. Both seem like plausible options to me. Why are you putting more stake in the latter? Honestly, if this was anyone else, I would probably on the same page as you, but given that this is WP, I don't see much reason to buy the latter framing over the former. The only way I buy that is if he both has a scum partner who both told him to do this and told him to reveal that he was the one doing the redirecting. The former move makes sense to me, but the latter doesn't.

Either you or drafter but drafter more since you claimed

I thought you said you knew her role, yet you still want to lynch her?

I thought you knew Water's role, yet you still want to lynch him?