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WaterPhoenix [3/6]
 iLikePie5, That1User, drafterman
iLikePie5 [1/6] Ragnar
drafterman [2/6] Speedrace, whiteflame


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@ILikePie5
Stop dodging.
I was pointing out the flaw in your logic
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@ILikePie5
If he’s an anti-town role why the hell didn’t you help lynch him lol. You were against him being lynched but fine with an NK being redirected to him lol
yes, i wanted to lynch him at a later date and we could've. from the way i saw it, croc would only die if you were scum and if you weren't then he'd be fine. i didn't really account for vig but i'd say croc had less value to town than speed. (sorry croc)

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You and your buddies clearly didn’t think I was a vigilante lol. It was obvious any action I had would be targeted on Speed.

Are you saying you thought I was going to target someone besides Speed lol?
ya man thats what i wrote

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At work. I’ll check back in the morning before sleep.
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Alright sorry, catching up for real (only this DP, don't have enough time to go back)

I buy Pie's claim. There's an extra kill, so unless we have a PGO or someone wants to counterclaim in some capacity, which it seems nobody wants to do, we have a vig. Maaaaaaaaaaybe it's a mafia vig for some extra kill power, but that's really uncommon on DART.
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it wasn't a bus driver it was a redirect by me and as to why i redirected dp 1 it's because i found you suspicious as hell for being on speed the whole time dp 1.

btw the format it worked with the redirect was that i just redirected any action taken by you onto croc.
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One, not all roles are on the spreadsheet used by Draft (though it seems most are).
For the record, did Supa say not all are or roles aren't necessarily from it?

The point of my question being: Did he word it in a way that CONFIRMS the existence of non-spreadsheet roles, or just say that they can potentially exist?
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I’ll be specific. My question was: “Are all the roles possible in this game on that spreadsheet from Drafter, or are the options broader than that?” His response was “Not all”, hence I would go with your first interpretation, though it may be worth asking a more incisive question to confirm.
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Good morning everyone! I would like to think I was put in jail but was probs just role blocked. Catching up now. 
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Is your role X-shot? 
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Ok so this is as of end of page 7:

Town:
Pie

Speed/Whiteflame/Water are all interdependent in my reads of them. If speed is town, whiteflame is apparently most likely town, water is also probably town.

If speed is scum it says nothing about whiteflame's alignment and water is *probably* scum with speed.

If whiteflame is scum there's a decent chance that speed is also scum but not necessarily
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Small point on the WP is scum hypothesis: With this many players replaced, decent odds one of us is a scum, leaving the other scum without anyone to get advice from yesterday... That said, him revealing himself happened today, when said problem is gone.

I say this partly because it applies to anyone as scum in DP1 and NP1.
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         ↓NP↓            Role              Claim
MisterChris          ???                  Chika from Love is War
  1. ???
Speedrace           Dreamer       Lucy Heartfilia from Fairy Tail
  1. whiteflame (innocent)
Whiteflame          ???                  ???
That1user             ???                  "I love ice cream"
  1. ???
Danielle                 ???                  ???
  1. ??? ... Roleblocked or jailed.
iLikePie5               Vigilante      Zero Two from DARLING in the FRANXX
  1. Speed
warren42             ???                   ???                                                        (replacing crystalynx)
drafterman         ???                   ???                                                        (replacing Corey)
Ragnar                  ???                   Asuna from Sword Art Online  (replacing seldiora)
  1. ???
WaterPhoenix   Redirector    Lucoa from Ms. Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
  1. iLikePie -> Croc

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Crocodile             Hated               Aqua from Konosuba
  1. N/A ... Night Killed
Lunatic                  Vanilla             Chizuru from Rent A Girlfriend
  1. N/A ... Night Killed
Elminister            Bodyguard    Mai from Rascal Does Not Dream of a Bunny Girl Senpai
  1. N/A ... Mod killed DP1

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@Danielle
Good morning everyone! I would like to think I was put in jail but was probs just role blocked. Catching up now. 
I don't expect you to reveal your power, but would you mind saying who you targeted?
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@Danielle
You were roleblocked?
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Interesting, based on that I'd agree with you and say it's probably the first but could possibly be the second. I'll ask but he'll probably be more careful with his answer this time

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@Speedrace
Not sure if I was role blocked - I was just told that my action failed.

BRB def gonna post more this afternoon between 1:30 and 5:30 EST 
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Not sure if I was role blocked - I was just told that my action failed.
What role action failed?
Role-blocker makes sense here since there's a redirector
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@That1User
Why would I tell you that? 
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@drafterman
I'm not getting lynched today.
I'd vtl you just for this. I don't understand why people think they can go around making declarative statements like this about what's going to happen in the game. If we vtl you for a claim and you don't claim I'm just gonna stop posting or refuse to claim for the entire game, just FYI. 
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And how does speed know this 
Probably the same way he knows lol
Can I get in on the fun here? I think I'm with speed and whiteflame
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And how does speed know this 
Probably the same way he knows lol
Can I get in on the fun here? I think I'm with speed and whiteflame
Didn't know we were forming a club (cabal?) over this, but I'm here for it.
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With 13 players Pie could be a TP serial killer, however I dunno if he would have brought attention to himself by shooting NP1 if he's TP. I guess he'd have to prove he's the vig if he was gonna claim that. The question is why target Speed. I wanted to lynch Speed yesterday out of principle, not necessarily cuz I thought he was guilty. I actually suspected he was TP (ironically he's the one who mentioned there is probs a TP in the game, which I wasn't sure was intentional or not) so I'm curious if Pie thought that as well. Speed did not read maf at all IMO per the attention he was bringing to himself which I can't see him doing to teammates unless one of them was gonna bus him, and no one did (I was pushing the hardest and I'm not his teammate, so).

Now I think he's town for exactly the reason warren said. Had that not happened on Friday I would have def sussed the claim for reasons I'll get to later, but I'm pretty confident he's town unless he really is so big brained he fake claimed with an outside game lie 3 days ahead of time. Even Speed's not that good. This also makes warren lean slight town as there would be no reason for scum to point that out. I actually wouldn't have said that out loud right away and waited to see if anyone tried to make a case on Speed to FOS them.

I'ma go back and read DP1 again later. This is not me stalling; I am EXTREMELY BUSY at work right now. If I can't post during the work day I will def post tonight. 

Assuming Speed is town we can assume his reads on whiteflame and that1 are decent, but I'm not 100% sold on that1. I'd actually like to know why he thinks that1user is town cuz I don't town read him/her at all. I'm null and if anything find post #289 to be extremely weird.

Last night I was told my action failed. I dunno if that means I was jailed, role blocked, my target was non-targetable, switched, etc.

@Ragnar I don't feel the need to  out who I targeted atm, but I didn't target Speed. 
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@Danielle
I can't speak for other people. I'm saying it so the rest of the players don't waste their time on a futile action. I'm not getting lynched today, so move on.
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@Danielle
I'm right there with you on pretty much all of this. Even though I'm pretty sure I do know what role That1 is, I'm null on her as you are. As for Speed, there have actually been claims made against him - in fact, the same claims made against WP have largely been directed at him as well (at least insofar as That1, Pie and Draft have all stated a willingness to lynch Speed, but a preference to lynch WP). 

It does help to know that you didn't target Speed. Don't really need information on who you targeted (at least not now) as long as we have that.
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Assuming Speed is town we can assume his reads on whiteflame and that1 are decent, but I'm not 100% sold on that1. I'd actually like to know why he thinks that1user is town cuz I don't town read him/her at all. I'm null and if anything find post #289 to be extremely weird.
I don't townread That1, I'm just more willing to lynch someone who hasn't claimed vs someone who has.
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Also drafter never denied it when I said I thought he was hinting that he has a lynch role
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What's all this talk about croc being a bad result? We had the vig shoot the hated. That's the optimal scenario.

I get that the thought process behind it isn't great but don't get why anyone's criticizing the result. Now we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
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Also drafter never denied it when I said I thought he was hinting that he has a lynch role
Yup, noticed that. Don't know if that's a subtle actual claim, a false one, or pure bravado.