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@MisterChris
Why not?
I'm not going to claim because of this stupid Discord logic. Only reason I haven't quit is so Supa doesn't get mad at me, but going forward I will not play mafia unless the mod bans Discord logic. It's a matter of principle

Plus I'm not mafia so I don't care if I'm lynched lol
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@whiteflame
 I don't know why you kept throwing out that accusation because it didn't make any sense with his character claim.
i could see it somehow making sense with how mai was the target of a lotta hate from fans because of various things, but i mean it's kinda useless now lol.

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@Speedrace
Plus I'm not mafia so I don't care if I'm lynched lol
i don't think that's how the game works...

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@Speedrace
fair enough. I get the frustration (seriously I do, it's pretty snakey) but you have to admit, sometimes it just works. 
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@Speedrace
I'm not going to claim because of this stupid Discord logic. 
The logic that’s real?
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@WaterPhoenix
I don't agree at all, but it is a moot point. 
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@WaterPhoenix
U plan on pressuring him?
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@whiteflame
It did not make any sense beyond the assertion itself. He wasn't mafia, he just got modkilled for outing himself, but if he was trying to do that, he wouldn't have claimed a character that prominent who clearly does not fit the Jester role. I don't care whether you think it works behaviorally or not (personally, I think if Mikal wanted to be lynched, it wouldn't have been at all difficult), it didn't make any logical sense based on the information we had.
Again, in the shoes of a TOWNIE, that is the ONLY logical conclusion that I can come to. Now from YOUR point of vision, sure maybe it doesn't make sense. But there is LITERALLY no other conclusion that I can possibly come to besides Discord glitching or me being mafia, and I know I'm not mafia

Like literally what would someone who is townie say?
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@Danielle
People being anti-town are your specialty, please grace us with your presence
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@Speedrace
Again, in the shoes of a TOWNIE, that is the ONLY logical conclusion that I can come to. Now from YOUR point of vision, sure maybe it doesn't make sense. But there is LITERALLY no other conclusion that I can possibly come to besides Discord glitching or me being mafia, and I know I'm not mafia

Like literally what would someone who is townie say?
Scum would say the same thing lol
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@MisterChris
fair enough. I get the frustration (seriously I do, it's pretty snakey) but you have to admit, sometimes it just works. 
It has literally never worked. We've lynched people for this before and it has never worked. I thought Pie was cop based on Discord logic and I was wrong lol
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@ILikePie5
Scum would say the same thing lol
Assume this happened to you. What would you say?
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@Speedrace
I'm honestly not sure, but trying to redirect attention to Mikal certainly didn't make you look great. I was outright willing to dismiss the Discord evidence because, frankly, I think it's circumstantial and not all that informative. I also just generally don't like to use evidence taking place outside of the game. That being said, I now am reading you as behaviorally sus based on your responses. That's why I voted for you. Claim.
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@whiteflame
I'm honestly not sure, but trying to redirect attention to Mikal certainly didn't make you look great.
So I was supposed to just...stand there...and ignore him?? Like? If I'm town, I just say "oh he must be town but he's not trolling, I have noooo idea what's going on. Jester certainly isn't a possibility"
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@Speedrace
Assume this happened to you. What would you say?
Why does that matter lol? Your only argument is Mikal is throwing so hard that he’s willing to get himself modkilled as a power role. Cmon man
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aight. Even tho I get Speed's frustration with the Discord logic, I still think that's no real excuse to refuse to claim... it's anti-town. If he won't claim, he'll get lynched. It's on him if he's innocent, not us. 
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@Speedrace
I won't pretend to know how you should have engaged with him, though I would have certainly done it differently, but there's a big difference between suggesting that Jester is a possibility and claiming that that's what he was.
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@ILikePie5
Why does that matter lol? Your only argument is Mikal is throwing so hard that he’s willing to get himself modkilled as a power role. Cmon man
It matters because there is literally no other argument that a townie could make

:|

Literally, if you can't think of better logic for a townie to say, then that means that is justified logic for a townie
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@whiteflame
but there's a big difference between suggesting that Jester is a possibility and claiming that that's what he was.
No there isn't, that's literally the same thing. I never claimed to know for sure but it's the only possibility that made sense to me
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@MisterChris
Even tho I get Speed's frustration with the Discord logic, I still think that's no real excuse to refuse to claim... it's anti-town. If he won't claim, he'll get lynched.
Go ahead
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@Speedrace
It matters because there is literally no other argument that a townie could make

:|

Literally, if you can't think of better logic for a townie to say, then that means that is justified logic for a townie
It’s the same logic scum would use. Especially scum as talented as you lol
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@Speedrace
You claimed pretty hard. Saying that it's the only thing that made sense of his actions and ignoring the character claim doesn't sound like you were just suggesting a possibility.
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@ILikePie5
VTL Speed
but i mean, he said he didn't care how many votes were on him since he just wouldn't claim anyways but sure.
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I'm not super caught up; I assume where talking about the same thing we've been talking about all day, and that's still about getting speed to claim. Speed's behavior seems incredibly townie to me right now, his reaction to the pressure, to mikal, etc. I feel like pressuring him for a claim will end up being a mistake, and that if he was a low risk role he probably would have claimed at this point. 

Inb4 "Well who do you suggest we lynch" 

I don't have one yet, only have skimmed the game. Probably won't be super active til I'm at work. All these new games I wanna play during my weekend. I'll be around though and checking in.
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@ILikePie5
It’s the same logic scum would use. Especially scum as talented as you lol
Scum as talented as me would've claimed by now, and also would've just said I was typing to some random person when I was first asked
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@Lunatic
I'm not super caught up; I assume where talking about the same thing we've been talking about all day, and that's still about getting speed to claim. Speed's behavior seems incredibly townie to me right now, his reaction to the pressure, to mikal, etc. I feel like pressuring him for a claim will end up being a mistake, and that if he was a low risk role he probably would have claimed at this point. 
He’s being anti-town if that’s what changes ur mind
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@Speedrace
Scum as talented as me would've claimed by now, and also would've just said I was typing to some random person when I was first asked
It’s all WIFOM
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@whiteflame
You claimed pretty hard. Saying that it's the only thing that made sense of his actions and ignoring the character claim doesn't sound like you were just suggesting a possibility.
Because...it IS the only thing that makes sense of his actions

Like literally, if I'm a townie, and someone else does that, Jester is the ONLY thing that makes sense. Followed by him throwing as a townie and finally by him being scum, but why would scum do a 1 for 1?
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@Speedrace
For me, a character claim would be sufficient. If your goal is to hide your role, I'd understand that much, but no matter your role, your character shouldn't give it away completely.
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On the refusal to claim thing; I don't think everyone should get a pass for pulling the "I'm not claiming under any circumstance" argument. I think you have to weigh it in each situation and I feel forcing speed to claim here will be a mistake based on the way he is behaving. I don't see him doing this as scum. Hell in my game he claimed way too readily as scum. If anyone can think of a fake claim it's fvcking speed. Dude is a mastermind as scum. If he's not claiming, it's for a pro town reason. And if he is forced to claim he is probably just gonna lie as town either way. Seems pointless.