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@Lunatic
I'm not super caught up; I assume where talking about the same thing we've been talking about all day, and that's still about getting speed to claim. Speed's behavior seems incredibly townie to me right now, his reaction to the pressure, to mikal, etc. I feel like pressuring him for a claim will end up being a mistake, and that if he was a low risk role he probably would have claimed at this point. 
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I'll be ignoring Pie and whiteflame from this point forward because talking to y'all is just making me frustrated
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Scum as talented as me would've claimed by now,
This x1000

Not just stroking his ego either, even though that would be justified with how well he kicked @ss in the last game.
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Also, I'm not going to sit here and argue back and forth the merits of your choice in accusation. I don't think it made sense, and so far, your responses haven't convinced me that it was a move you would reasonably make as town, given all the available evidence.
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UNVOTE

i'm extremely 50/50 on speed right now, i completely agree with him on the discord thing but i don't think "oh mikal was a power role so why would he throw" is a very good reason to lynch either. 

Plus I'm not mafia so I don't care if I'm lynched lol
this is sus as hell though and the more he refuses to claim the more he seems like he's mafia struggling to come up with a fake claim.

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I’m not moving my vote.
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@Lunatic
low risk role he probably would have claimed at this point. 
isn't he just shouting that he's a super powerful power role at this point then?

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All this being said, I'm still torn on whether I see Speed as slight scum based on all this or null. At the moment, I'm leaning towards the latter. I think anyone would be frustrated by being forced to defend themselves from the kinds of claims Mikal was making, and even pushing the view that he was the Jester makes sense in that light. For now, I'll unvote until I have stronger reason to shift my perspective back.
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Waters unvote is scummy, he was all too willing to pressure speed until a second person took speeds side here lol. I mean not much other than my defense of speed changed between where he voted him in 263 and unvoted him in 275 lol.

I can see water bandwagoning as town but that sh1t is... wow.
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Speedrace [3/7] MisterChris, iLikePie5, whiteflame
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isn't he just shouting that he's a super powerful power role at this point then?
Maybe, but that means he should claim? For all we know he is a vanilla. Any claim gives mafia POE information, unless we are mass claiming, or have a justifiable reason to vote him I don't much see the point in forcing it. 
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Speedrace [3/7] MisterChris, iLikePie5, whiteflame
whiteflame unvoted
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i didn't see your post when i was writing my post i swear. 
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Speedrace [2/7] MisterChris, iLikePie5
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@Lunatic
Waters unvote is scummy, he was all too willing to pressure speed until a second person took speeds side here lol. I mean not much other than my defense of speed changed between where he voted him in 263 and unvoted him in 275 lol.
Do you find WF's unvote scummy too?
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vtl corey
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I can see water bandwagoning as town but that sh1t is... wow.
also, at that point it was pie and whiteflame against speed with only you for speed so how could it have been a favorable bandwagon for me as mafia.

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Do you find WF's unvote scummy too?
I find whiteflame slightly scummy, but I was getting that vibe before he unvoted. I don't wanna focus too much on scumreading the wagon, there is logic to it. I generally agree with obstinance in claiming being scummy, but like I said, it's a case to case basis and I don't see a world where scum speed doesn't just comply here. 

I think we should probably pressure some of the boonies, I can see supa wanting to make one of them scum with a couple of experienced players. 
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noobies not boonies*
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Who did you have in mind? Don't think Crystalynx has posted yet.
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@Lunatic
I find whiteflame slightly scummy, but I was getting that vibe before he unvoted. I don't wanna focus too much on scumreading the wagon, there is logic to it.
The wagon/sudden flip is why you found WP scummy, maybe you found WF to be more logical

I think we should probably pressure some of the boonies, I can see supa wanting to make one of them scum with a couple of experienced players. 
I don't think so, potentially could happen under Supa though
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Hi I just finished reading most of this
Imo, it's dumb to accuse someone of something they were doing outside game
I have Discord tho not in the mafia server and I don't think you can tell if someone is typing to someone else
that said tho Elm didn't seem to have a problem getting lynched to prove their claim
Seems like paranoia / a glitch
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Well, that was oddly quick. Must be a coincidence that you just happened to finish reading shortly after I mentioned you. 
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OK.

Speed's Jester thing was dumb, and his reactions/defense was pretty scummy as was refusing to claim. That said Lunatic makes a pretty good point about Speed as a player... I'll unvote for now, we need more evidence to lynch someone. We're already down 1 townie. 


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Imo, it's dumb to accuse someone of something they were doing outside game
I have Discord tho not in the mafia server and I don't think you can tell if someone is typing to someone else
that said tho Elm didn't seem to have a problem getting lynched to prove their claim
Seems like paranoia / a glitch
Yeah Idk how to feel about outside factors as evidence in game
Seen grey/offline typing  b4 but when they're messaging me not when in group DMs then exiting out
But apparently MisterChris confirmed this exisiting with Em?

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it was less a confirmation of it existing, and more of a confirmation of it being plausible. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5306/post-links/227414
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UNVOTE 
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it was less a confirmation of it existing, and more of a confirmation of it being plausible.
You proved it potentially exisiting then
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pretty much yeah. there were too many factors to be certain as I explained in the screenshot, but I did see the dots he was talking about (albeit briefly)
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Not sure what to make of WF or Water, but WF sticks out the most because he's suddenly null on me? Not that I'm complaining but I find that strange

Water on the other hand sounded like he jumped on not really reading and then read, then unvoted