Anime Waifus Mafia DP1

nah

i have very little idea what's happening in terms of developing. VTNL for now.

I'm deadddd

Thoughts? Claims?

i think best course of action is wait til the end of the dp and see if the inactives decide to share any feedback then just vtnl.

Well, at this point, I'd like to at least push the inactives to be more active. Hence, I'll join the VTL Coreyinthehouse group. 

Bump

I'm voting corey i think, he's afk along with his sister.

First of all, literally nothing about the link you shared to your post indicates any hypocrisy of mine. I'm not sure if you gave the wrong link or not, but nowhere from that page did I say "Discord logic" is a bad reason to pressure someone. I have always said that it's completely fair game and reliance on it is partially why the town sucks without theme analysis or considering outside game clues. We use it way more often than we should. I have complained about this multiple times in the last few weeks. That's why I said I wouldn't have agreed with Mikal to pressure Speed about it had I been online at the time. Which brings me to the next point that I am only going to repeat one final time:  

I am not voting for Speed because he refused to claim per Mikal's bullshit Discord logic. The fact that you think I am means you are either completely  illiterate or being willfully obtuse. I'm  not sure how I can dumb this down for you people any further than the explanations I have already given multiple times. 

I have said in each and every game that we have to start somewhere on DP1. Every DP1 someone whines and throws a hissy fit and refuses to claim because "why should they." THERE IS NO GOOD REASON MOST OF THE TIME. We literally make one up and that's why you completely ignored the example I gave re: Pie voting for whiteflame, because in each and every game you'll find a random or arguably BS reason to pressure someone first. Why should Elminster claim when you pressure him first? What if you voted for him and 4 people hopped on just cuz they figured why not, but he refused to claim because "why should he?" It's straight up anti town to not claim when you have a wagon even if the wagon is built on bullshit. That's how you play the game. 

You are also lying about me wanting to "mislynch Speed." I don't want to lynch Speed. I'm telling him to claim so he doesn't get lynched and at the same time keeping my promise that I will absolutely vote to lynch someone who refuses to claim when they have a sufficient wagon. I don't cow tow to big personalities who dictate how the game is played by saying "this is what's going to happen," i.e. YYWs style. In Discord Mafia a few weeks ago, Mikal was screaming at me over and over to do something and I literally just said NO you aren't going to get me to listen just because you "said so." 

Speed saying "yeah I'm not claiming no matter what - lynch me" is reminiscent of that smug, condescending personality that I can't stand. That's why I'm voting for him. It's a team game. I agree Mikal's reason was nonsense but a wagon started and Speed said he wasn't going to claim regardless of whether or not he had the votes. If you force the mislynch of a townie when you're town solely because you refuse to claim (like Pie did in that game where I ripped him a new asshole) then you're a loser and deserve ridicule. The fact that you think I would yell at Pie and others over this behavior but not Speed is dumb. I'm not going to let him control how the game goes. That's how he makes a fool of everyone all the time.  I am perfectly fine lynching a townie who plays like that and I have maintained this exact same position in each game. So no this is not me trying to "mislynch" Speed; I'd unvote him if he claimed. And you haven't proven anything about my alleged hypocrisy. I already said I'm not claiming and don't care if you lynch me for it. That's how we play on DART now. 

Oh, and I said I would vote for one of the three noobs or Croc for aforementioned reasons. But of course nobody responded or got anything going so oh well. 

Just saw the vote count. Claim. And if he/she doesn't claim, Supa, replace them. I knew this would be a problem -_- 

I’ve notified potential replacements

This is actually true because with so many noobs and inactives they could just dictate the entire game and nobody would know better and likely comply. I don't think Speed is mafia though. I think he's TP for aforementioned reasons (can't see him drawing this much attention to himself with teammates; can't see him refusing to claim unless he's trying to draw the NK -- could be TP PGO or something like that). He might even be town. I just won't stand for people refusing to claim regardless of how nonsensical the wagon is. People almost always think their wagons are nonsensical and Speed shouldn't get special standing to not comply just because he's a good player -- in fact he should be scrutinized more than others because he's a good player. Maybe I'm just bitter after last game but you'd think after Speed makes a fool out of everyone time and again they wouldn't let him dictate the game like that. It's rubbing me the wrong way. Don't care if I'm read scum because of it. Don't care if he's town. I don't like this style at all. Why aren't you voting for anyone? 

Btw if Speed thought his wagon was bullshit, the appropriate way to handle that would be to then question or scum read people who hopped on a nonsensical wagon and try and make a case against them. Not simply to just say "I'm not claiming no matter what." It's very frustrating that my point is being misrepresented but w/e. 

Mostly to see how you responded to Lunatic. I am split on whether to vote you, Speed, Croc, finish off Corey or just go NL... Will need to think on it a bit

How would you feel about extending the DP until the replacements at least get to make 1 post? 

Ill respond later, gotta do a class for my work. In the meantime I support an extension so we can replace inactives.

I haven't heard back from any of them yet, and if they do not give a response by then, I will have to end DP. If they do come on, I will extend the NP so they catch up on everything. Frankily I prefer replacements to come in next DP so they are able to properly read up on the DP without new info being added

However I might allow more time depending on the context of the situation

Hah. Anyways. 

No U.

Hi! Welcome! I'm happy to help you learn Mafia :) Which players are in a PM with you?