Paranoia - Day 3

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@ILikePie5
As soon as you flipped Mime, I knew we were kinda screwed. Drafter even ended up changing the town wincon which hurt us. If there was just one TP we’d be fine, but two really killed us

You needed two to make it balanced. One Mime (Jester) is a pretty dumb role cuz it's too easy to win. Two is harder because once you know there are players in the game that are TRYING to get lynched, it makes you hesitant to lynch "obviously scummy" players. I thought 2 was perfect for balance in a game based on Paranoia. In fact I hope if Mimes are ever used going forward it's in this exact set up with 2 scum and 2 mimes. 
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@Danielle
Yeah you guys played it really well 

I was trying to keep you alive until you doubled down on pgo (+ gp being right about the edit )

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@whiteflame
I know mime wasn't that1 when she seemed to want to go mime hunting with me where Pie definitely did not.
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@Danielle
You needed two to make it balanced. One Mime (Jester) is a pretty dumb role cuz it's too easy to win. Two is harder because once you know there are players in the game that are TRYING to get lynched, it makes you hesitant to lynch "obviously scummy" players. I thought 2 was perfect for balance in a game based on Paranoia. In fact I hope if Mimes are ever used going forward it's in this exact set up with 2 scum and 2 mimes. 
Ya I know. If there were Mimes it would have to be 2. I was hoping you’d be some other TP like a survivor or something which is why you claimed that. Never thought you could be a mime
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@Danielle
Pretty much Mafia blew it by totally ignoring the mime team.
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@ILikePie5
You have to play in speeds game 

Good list of people , will be good 

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Damn. Oh well. 

Tbh I was hoping That1 was scum so that it'd be a meme that I'd catch That1 whenever I'm cop
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I expect that game up by the end of the day 
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@drafterman
Really well balanced and damn good concept 10/10
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For the record I didn't "change" the town wincon, I misspoke when I first answered pies question.
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@Greyparrot
Pretty much Mafia blew it by totally ignoring the mime team.
I knew it was between That1 and Whiteflame but we had people like you who’d rather let TP win lmao
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@Danielle
Despite you trying to look scummy, you ironically still were the only person who seemed willing to lynch pie and croc in dp1 lol. I was trying to agree with all your posts on those two as much as possible without giving away I had inside info lol
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@drafterman
For the record I didn't "change" the town wincon, I misspoke when I first answered pies question.
If you wanna be politically correct about it lol
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First time playing as a TP, and first time in chat with another player in the game. Fun experience. Really got to play up the "I'm a novice and just want to play this straight" angle. To Speed's credit, he was among the first to see through it, though like many of you, he scum read me.
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@Elminster
I was going to waive the lynch on Danielle to save the potato, but you convinced me to vote her since I had no idea about the mimes.
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@Elminster
You have to play in speeds game 

Good list of people , will be good 
I’m burned out but I’ll see lol
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@Greyparrot
I was for sure she wasn't town bases on all that Google doc shit. I just couldn't have fathomed mimes. 

At worst I was expecting cultist 

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@Elminster
I was for sure she wasn't town bases on all that Google doc shit. I just couldn't have fathomed mimes. 
+1
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@drafterman
I think the balance was just fine too. I don't see many situations where town would have won this though and that is mostly because the way the meta is here, results and roles are taken at face value way too much. I mean you literally told people the game was designed to induce paranoia and people were still town confirming scum over roles and results lol. 

That said I would have loved to see this set up in live mafia, I think it would have worked a bit better in towns favor in that circumstance.
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This game was an absolute mindbending meme thank you draftermod
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I literally thought someone flipping mine would paralyze the town and keep them from lynching anyone.

Nope, lol

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I was for sure she wasn't town bases on all that Google doc shit. I just couldn't have fathomed mimes. 

Ya'll knew there were mimes at the end of DP2. 
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@ILikePie5
Btw if both mafia got lynched, you would have had once chance to guess which of the four flipped vanillas was the seer. If guessed correctly you would have won. Who would you have honestly guessed between me, speed, elmin, and that1 was the seer? 
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@Elminster
Honestly, you were the main one I was concerned about this DP. When mafia NK'd you, I knew I was in good shape.
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@drafterman
I literally thought someone flipping mine would paralyze the town and keep them from lynching anyone.

Nope, lol

ME TOO. There was absolutely 0 regard for that mechanic lol
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@Lunatic
I think the balance was just fine too. I don't see many situations where town would have won this though and that is mostly because the way the meta is here, results and roles are taken at face value way too much. I mean you literally told people the game was designed to induce paranoia and people were still town confirming scum over roles and results lol. 
Yeah Idk why it didn't occur to Supa he could be insane cop, he was so narrowly focused that I was guilty and IlikePie was inno, that possibility didn't even come up in his mind
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@drafterman
Was concerned about that as well, though that probably would have led to an easy mafia win.
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@Danielle
I mean when we lynched you I had no idea. After the flip it was all on mafia.

After I was dead and drafter wouldn't let me replace I was screaming at luna that wf was a mime lol 
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@Lunatic
I don't see many situations where town would have won this though and that is mostly because the way the meta is here, results and roles are taken at face value way too much.
Wouldn’t have been optimal for scum to kill Mimes either because of the BP. The only reason we got this far is because of what you said and cause Psychiatrist 
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I thought wf was mime and user was scum