Paranoia - Day 3

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@Vader
He was popular mafia lmao

I entertained it for a second and should have trusted my gut that drafter would do some shit like that 

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@Vader
He was popular ... Role confirmation =/= affiliation confirmation.

Mods need to keep giving scum roles that sre commonly town so we can beat the breaks off of this buying roles and results at face value stuff.
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@Vader
All that told us was that he was popular. No one said popular meant town. He was popular scum.
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@ILikePie5
I thought in the back of my mind "If you win this as mafia you are the greatest mafia ever"
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@Danielle
I knew you were TP the second you claimed that. We wanted to get you lynched so Croc would be confirmed but turns out you had a buddy which destroyed our entire plan
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@Danielle
Hey tbf I was right with the spread sheet
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I'll take a TP win over a scum win
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@Lunatic
Well I had no experience playing a game with that flavor and I thought Pie was town confirmed cuz of it. I also said That1 was behaviorally scummy and the fact they claimed Vanilla then Miller didn't help at all
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@Greyparrot
Me too lol. I was praying whiteflame would be lynched
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@That1User
I thought in the back of my mind "If you win this as mafia you are the greatest mafia ever"
I was literally just about to unvote after rereading  DP1 because of Danielle’s last vote for whiteflame
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@Greyparrot
I'll take a TP win over a scum win
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The popular play wasn't even the good part for mafia. It was gambling with crocs fake claim.  That was about as good of a fake claim as a fake claim could have got 
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@Vader
You mis read what that1 said. She didnt claim miller she just said she would have to be hidden miller because her role pm said vanilla. Ironically there was a hidden miller. It was speed lol
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@Lunatic
I was trying to figure out who wanted to get lynched without being too obvious about it...then I was like...duh WF isnt role claiming.
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@Vader
She didn't claim miller. Shes just new and had no idea how it worked. She thought you weren't told if you were miller. 
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I still would have suspected Speed most of all, tbh. My reads on Croc and Pie were largely null up to this point (though I was a bit sus of Croc - was a bit confused by his choices for targets), though I know a lot of people were convinced they were town, so good job to both of you guys. My suspicions of That1User vanished during the last DP entirely due to behavior, but I wanted to keep some attention on him. That ended up sealing in the deal because people ended up thinking he was the mime. Didn't know it would play out that way, but that's how it worked out.
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@Elminster
The popular play wasn't even the good part for mafia. It was gambling with crocs fake claim.  That was about as good of a fake claim as a fake claim could have got 
It was 100% to confirm Croc. He was Hated Mafia so we couldn’t lose him
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@Greyparrot
I'll take a TP win over a scum win
At this point town had zero shot at winning, Pie was way too trusted to lynch the popular, he was percieved as town confirmed all across the board
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@Lunatic
He was popular ... Role confirmation =/= affiliation confirmation.

Wasn't he tested multiple times though? I personally never believe that Popular = town because all roles that can be "confirmed" aside from Innocent Child are often mafia decoys. I may have said that in the game. I read Pie behaviorally town though. I kinda town read Croc too lol :( To be fair we all did. I think everyone including Speed put Pie and Croc in their definitive town pile. 
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@Lunatic
It's funny but the results of DP1/NP1 really decided whether tp or scum or town was going to have a big advantage. Wild setup.
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@ILikePie5
If you had unvoted, I would have just VTL myself.
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@ILikePie5
Imo that was what sealed it for you guys. I don't think anyone would have made the call to finish you as mafia. I talked about it for like 2 pages and let it go cus if pop mafia is alive last dp, the game is over. 
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Dang. This was a confusing game in general lol. Paranoia definitely made it more interesting. I also town read Pie because of his role and his behavior with role, but guess I was just wrong or naive. It is what it is lol. First game playing with a variant and had no idea how to handle it. 
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@Danielle
Wasn't he tested multiple times though? I personally never believe that Popular = town because all roles that can be "confirmed" aside from Innocent Child are often mafia decoys. I may have said that in the game. I read Pie behaviorally town though. I kinda town read Croc too lol :( To be fair we all did. I think everyone including Speed put Pie and Croc in their definitive town pile. 
As soon as you flipped Mime, I knew we were kinda screwed. Drafter even ended up changing the town wincon which hurt us. If there was just one TP we’d be fine, but two really killed us
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@Greyparrot
Was a little shocked that didn't come up as a red flag this DP. Previous rounds, it made sense to scum read me. It was all about having That1 be the focus of suspicion for the mime, I guess.
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@Elminster
I know you were right with the spreadsheet :)  I would have been annoyed and I was going to pretend to be, but my goal was to get lynched so I wanted to appear scummy and the mod mistake / editing the spreadsheet worked in my favor at making me appear scummy. I knew the mafia would try to get me lynched if I claimed PGO so I didn't have to do much work cuz they'd have an incentive to lynch me. 
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@ILikePie5
I was literally just about to unvote after rereading  DP1 because of Danielle’s last vote for whiteflame
I WAS SO PARANOID YOU WERE GONNA UNVOTE SO I VTLD ASAP
Fittingly paranoia ended Paranoia mafia 
I wanted to preserve my mental sanity so I hammered and risked a chaos mime win, this game was an absolute mindfuck
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@Elminster
Imo that was what sealed it for you guys. I don't think anyone would have made the call to finish you as mafia. I talked about it for like 2 pages and let it go cus if pop mafia is alive last dp, the game is over. 
If we successfully lynched town this DP, then the plan was to have everyone vote me as Popular. I’d need 4 votes and Croc would’ve been the 4th but he’d be on “vacation”
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@Vader
You actually picked the right targets , since you couldn't investigate yourself. It's just unfortunate that you got a guilty on the most scum read person and a inno on the most town read 

It made it look like you were legit. I've played enough that I should have questioned it more but the results and the targets made it seem non flavored as it verified my confirmation bias on my reads 

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I’m pretty sure I balded a bit during this game