Paranoia Mafia - Day 2

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@ILikePie5
Just to make sure you aren't fucking with me. Can you imgur the part where drafter edited. 
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The timing actually checks up with drafters edit and parrots post. Within an hour of each other. 

Drafter prob changed it and parrot logged on about an hour later 
There are a lot of edits in the history though. They don’t show timestamps on mobile though 
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Just to make sure you aren't fucking with me. Can you imgur the part where drafter edited. 
Ya gimme one sec
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@ILikePie5
I don't think you would spend the time doing this otherwise haha. 


Totally believe you but also for others to see. If it converts to within 20 mins of each other 


We have supa and gp as hard town. 





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I wanna know why Dani lied about PGO now.
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I’m CST so the time on my phone is behind an hour compared to you
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Yeah so within half an hour. Parrots excuse checks out per the time drafter edited it. I don't think parrot would remeber that post if he didn't have that conversation.  

All the timing of it is confirmed by time stamps. 


I also think supa is confirmed because drafter said a cop can't visit themselves.  If supa was lying about cop or fake claiming. Why would he ask drafter that and have an answer that matches up to what drafter told me. He would have had to have asked and had no reason to do that if it's a fake claim 

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Charge your damn phone
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We are back to danielle and user 

User for different reasons. I kinda want to lynch user to test supas results. That opens up an actual result this np depending on the flip. 


Or we go danielle for lying 

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Charge your damn phone
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We are back to danielle and user 

User for different reasons. I kinda want to lynch user to test supas results. That opens up an actual result this np depending on the flip. 


Or we go danielle for lying 
I prefer Danielle. Supa can do what you told him to do to see if he’s flavored in some way.

I have a disposition to lynching PGOs cause it’s such a safe claim for scum generally. What really gets me is that she wanted to pressure Speed up till L-1 to get him to confess if I recall correctly while hiding her own role from all of us 
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I think user may be the best target. There is a guilty on her. Behavior wise I even ping her as town but I think using her as a sacrifice to confirm supas results as good or bad may he the best use of it. We can always come back to danielle.

Thoughts ?


It would be up to supa who to pick but the flip would confirm whether he's flavored or not before the np

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I'm okay with either. I just think we can go back to her and we get at least one more day with supa alive. So having a result prior to the  np opens his result next dp as valid or not 
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Really would like for Whiteflame to claim -_-

I think scum is WF and Danielle
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Per pie 



You are the HOT POTATO. You start the game with a HOT POTATO. You win with the Town.

NOTES:

If something prevents the player from giving away the HOT POTATO (e.g. roleblocker, commuter, etc.) the HOT POTATO will be given to a random, targetable player (that isn't the player currently holding it). If no such player exists, the bomb will explode harmlessly in mid air.

Note on timing: The player receiving the bomb during a Night Phase will be the one protected by it (killing their killers) not the person giving it away.

MESSAGE TO PLAYER/MESSAGE TO TARGET

"You have been given a HOT POTATO. If functions as a BOMB: if whoever receives this bomb is killed for any reason (except by lynching), their attacker will die as well. If they have multiple killers, one will be selected at random to die. You must give this HOT POTATO to another player during the next available night phase. If you do not, it will explode and kill you! (If you are Mafia, you may not give it to another Mafia player)"

(If the target cannot be given the bomb): "You cannot find your target so you toss the HOT POTATO into the crowd!"

(If there are no available players to take the bomb): "The bomb explodes in mid air!"

Present Hot Potato:
You are the HOT POTATO. You start the game with a HOT POTATO. You win with the Town. "If something prevents the player from giving away the HOT POTATO (e.g. roleblocker, commuter, etc.) the HOT POTATO will be given to a random, targetable player (that isn't the player currently holding it). If no such player exists, the bomb will explode harmlessly in mid air. Note on timing: The player receiving the bomb during a Night Phase will be the one protected by it (killing their killers) not the person giving it away."

Messages to Player
Messages to Target(s)
"You have been given a HOT POTATO. If functions as a BOMB: if whoever receives this bomb is killed for any reason (except by lynching), their attacker will die as well. If they have multiple killers, one will be selected at random to die. You must give this HOT POTATO to another player during the next available night phase. If you do not, it will explode and kill you! (If you are Mafia, you may not give it to another Mafia player)"

(If the target cannot be given the bomb): "You cannot find your target so you toss the HOT POTATO into the crowd!"

(If there are no available players to take the bomb): "The bomb explodes in mid air!"

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@Elminster
I'm okay with either. I just think we can go back to her and we get at least one more day with supa alive. So having a result prior to the  np opens his result next dp as valid or not 
I think behaviorally we can read Danielle as scum. With That1 it’s still kinda divided. I think she’s scum but Danielle going first just logistically is better imo cause of our reads. Lynching a possible town to just confirm a person we read is town is pretty redundant to me
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@drafterman
VTL Danielle
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@Danielle
You have been summoned
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@Speedrace
Really would like for Whiteflame to claim -_-
It would give us more info, but I think Danielle is a safe consensus at the moment 
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@ILikePie5
It would give us more info, but I think Danielle is a safe consensus at the moment 
Yeah I would def rather lynch Danielle but can we try to get him to claim before dp ends
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@whiteflame
Claim pls
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Well... looks like I missed out on a lot regarding GP. Should really have been more careful with who he chose to target, but hey, it ended up revealing that Danielle was lying.

I have strong misgivings about That1User, to be sure. I've already made those clear. However, as I said earlier, the fact that Danielle was lying about the PGO claim makes her incredibly suspect. It's possible that she's covering for another town role that might make her a target, but if that's the case, I think we would have heard from her by now. Dunno what's going on IRL for her, but this prolonged silence only makes her look more suspect. Hopefully, she will be on sometime tonight to explain herself, but assuming she's not or that her explanation doesn't somehow vindicate her, I think she's the obvious lynch. That1User is my pick for the next DP.

As for everyone else, I think Supa's highly likely to be town. We haven't gotten confirmation that Croc is actually the psychiatrist, but I think he leans town, I'm just unclear who the TP is in this game, especially since I have limited experience with them. With ILikePie5 having been thoroughly confirmed as popular at this point, I think he leans town as well. That just leaves Elm and Speed (who apparently doesn't like my logic this game for some reason...), and I've already made clear previously why I'm suspecting Speed. That hasn't changed, though he's less suspect than That1User at this point. I'm null on Elm.

As for claiming, I'm interested in hearing from Elm first. He said back in post #68 that I shouldn't claim. Maybe that was because things were looking hairy at that time, but I'd like to know why.

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@Elminster
Just want to tag Elm on this and clarify that GP does look like solid town to me based on this lengthy exchange.
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@whiteflame
I still don't think you should claim. Me and speed are on opposite pages with you. I town read you really hard so I don't see a need. Speed scum reads you so he wants pressure. 
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@whiteflame
Also speed as mafia would want you to claim to see how he can fuck with your role 
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@whiteflame
We haven't gotten confirmation that Croc is actually the psychiatrist
Did you invade my mind and steal my thought because I was thinking the exact same thing, if Croc isn't the psychiatrist we're pretty fucked
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@Elminster
Also speed as mafia would want you to claim to see how he can fuck with your role 
lol
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@Elminster
Also speed as mafia would want you to claim to see how he can fuck with your role 
Glad to hear we're on the same page. I'm still unclear between Speed and That1User which is scum, but both have acted rather antagonistically.
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I’m honestly just ready to see the freakin flip. This game has mentally burned me out
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@whiteflame
Also I don't mind your play. I just read you as boomer noob town. That's not a bad thing necessarily. Just means you are trying to fill out the game 

I remeber I literally had to tell you that you were watcher in the discord game cus you didn't know. So yeah you are just pinging new player vibes to me really hard. 


Granted it's hard to call that scum or town