Paranoia Mafia - Day 2

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Drafter word for word just said roles work the same way as listed on his list 
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I'm going to read this list tonight in detail when I'm.nesr my computer. Can't access it on my phone 
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@Elminster
I lied because the mod had an original plan on how the potato worked, then suddenly decided to change the rule because he thought it was too powerful for town.

But he changed the rule after I lied to bait the NK towards me.

Regardless, Dani is scum if she is available and does not say anything.
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Can you explain to me why he just told me when I asked him word for word 


"Roles only work the way as listed on your sheet"


His response was yes 


So you are saying the mod is bastard modding ?

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Also, the mod just confirmed to me via PM that he updated his role list to reflect the current status and mechanics of the role. So you guys know the mechanic now, and it doesn't matter anymore what Dani has to say. I won't get any analysis from it now.
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Does your role function differently than what is on his current list ?
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Originally he said I was protected with the bomb on NP1 but then decided to change that after I fake claimed mason.
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Can you dig up the old post about bomb you listed and then check for the new update and post it back to back 

If it's the same then parrot is lying. 

If it's changed he's confirmed 

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It's good. 

We can town confirm you 


We posted the og role earlier in the so

If the roles have changed you are town confirmed. 

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Per pie 



You are the HOT POTATO. You start the game with a HOT POTATO. You win with the Town.

NOTES:

If something prevents the player from giving away the HOT POTATO (e.g. roleblocker, commuter, etc.) the HOT POTATO will be given to a random, targetable player (that isn't the player currently holding it). If no such player exists, the bomb will explode harmlessly in mid air.

Note on timing: The player receiving the bomb during a Night Phase will be the one protected by it (killing their killers) not the person giving it away.

MESSAGE TO PLAYER/MESSAGE TO TARGET

"You have been given a HOT POTATO. If functions as a BOMB: if whoever receives this bomb is killed for any reason (except by lynching), their attacker will die as well. If they have multiple killers, one will be selected at random to die. You must give this HOT POTATO to another player during the next available night phase. If you do not, it will explode and kill you! (If you are Mafia, you may not give it to another Mafia player)"

(If the target cannot be given the bomb): "You cannot find your target so you toss the HOT POTATO into the crowd!"

(If there are no available players to take the bomb): "The bomb explodes in mid air!"

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Someone check the list and post it. If the verbage is the same we lynch him. If it's changed he's confirmed 
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You agree with this yes ?
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Post 403 is about the time where mod changed the mechanics on the hot potato to not protect me.
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I said "I might have to disclose some stuff" meant I would have to explain why I lied about Mason due to the change, but then I decided to wait till the next day and get Dani's reaction and see if it lined up with the role list. I didn't expect the Mod to update the list.
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What paranoia mechanic where you saying dany would have to explain 
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It’s still the same. If Drafter did change the list then it happened before I posted that. In fact it probably happened before GP first claimed Hot Potato. I remember looking at the list to see what it does but I don’t exactly remember what the notes said about it 
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Yeah parrot said mid game and he knew the exact post and wording of when he was talking with the mod. 

That makes me hit my breaks a bit. Cus he was able to trace back that post


The only way he would remeber that is if he had that convo

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If croc is telling the truth then there has to be a tp. 


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@Crocodile
1) will you be told if your conversion goes through 

2) update 50/50 between user and danielle. Flip a coin 

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Yeah parrot said mid game and he knew the exact post and wording of when he was talking with the mod. 

That makes me hit my breaks a bit. Cus he was able to trace back that post


The only way he would remeber that is if he had that convo
That’s bastard af from the mod tho. Changing the mechanics of the role midgame
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@Elminster
If croc is telling the truth then there has to be a tp. 
Danielle is either scum or TP. If Danielle is scum then I would sus That1 and Whiteflame as TPs. If Danielle flips TP then Croc would be confirmed but it would place more suspicion on the other two for me. Ofc if Supa does what you recommended then it could be solved but who knows
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Do me a favor go into google docs. The actual access to it.

If you right click the settings tab 

It will say 

Last updated by "whoever"

Tell me the last time drafter edited it and let's cross compare that to post 403

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That’s bastard af from the mod tho. Changing the mechanics of the role midgame

He apologized for doing it, but said it was his first time making a game around this role, and wanted to maintain balance thinking it was way too powerful to apply to 2 people, which is why he felt it necessary to change it up. I told him I understood and decided to try and use it to either score with Dani who usually dies NP1 or try to see if Dani's explanation of the role matched up with the list. I did not anticipate MOD updating the role list, which kinda leaves me hanging as to why I demanded you guys wait on Dani.
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Good lord what the fuck is going on and that whole interaction was fucking mind numbing
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Do me a favor go into google docs. The actual access to it.

If you right click the settings tab 

It will say 

Last updated by "whoever"

Tell me the last time drafter edited it and let's cross compare that to post 403
Last Updated by Scott Rollison on Wednesday at 11:30 AM.
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Let me time stamp parrot 
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11.25.20 12:51PM
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Sec talking to MOD ..might have to disclose some stuff

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The timing actually checks up with drafters edit and parrots post. Within an hour of each other. 

Drafter prob changed it and parrot logged on about an hour later 

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Let me time stamp parrot 
Assuming Google shows the same time as me. It’d be 11:30 Central on Wednesday when Drafter made an edit to the list. GP made the post at 11:51 Central and didn’t expand on it at all.