The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Mafia DP1

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@WaterPhoenix
Vote intel scum.
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@Greyparrot
why
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On a side note, Ayyantu is clearly anti-town at this point, lynching him will be fine by me. I'm pretty sure I know his role, but I'm not going to out it.
This feel scummy to me from bearman.
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@Lunatic
I have a bit of an FoS on Bear too just from him saying his town reads are obvious. Do you read that the same way? Maybe I'm being paranoid lol
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@WaterPhoenix
What are your reads?
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@WaterPhoenix
Stop fighting and work together.
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unvote, vtl supadudz

The push on Ayyantu feel very convienent. Obviously this person isn't new, and supa is simutaneously using arguments against him for being noob scum, while also admitting he doesn't feel new. The logic supa is using for Ayya feels absolutely horrible, and I feel like the noob train on him feels like an easy mislynch.  I am getting flashbacks from my brief stint as pattern when the same happened to me, but I feel like supa should know better. 

Second scum read is bearman, who is equally pushing a mislynch for as sh1tty reasons, but the fact that bearman thinks he knows his role but won't out it even though he thinks ayyu is scum makes me really nervous him. Not even sure why he would say that, except for as trying to earn town cred by seeming super smart like he did with that1user in naruto by publicly outting she thought she was the doctor. If town thinks they have info like that, they keep it to themselves. Also why pressure the guy if he thinks he already knows his role, except that he's already made up his mind to lynch them and there's conveniently a wagon of 4 there?

As of right now I'm willing to lynch supa or bear more than anyone.
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@Vader
scum on ayyantu and lean scum on croc, mostly because of ayyantu's defending of croc, could possibly be a bus. i have a town lean on you for questioning ayyantu as i am.
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@Greyparrot
no, but why is he scum
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But the thing is he isn't a noob by his own acclaim, yet he's asking for a mass claim and trying to force reads in early DP. I know it's shaky but I can't shake it as him not knowing meta of town when he has played
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@WaterPhoenix
Your vote is still on ayyu from the joke RVS earlier, do you mean to keep it there?
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@Lunatic
yes.
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@Intelligence_06
VTL Ayyantu

Currently my best candidate.

I would like some more reasoning to back this up please.
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@WaterPhoenix
Why are the scumread on Croc?
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please ignore my typos lol
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@Intelligence_06
Ayyantu is a bit defensive in his/her/their responses. Being defensive is scummy.

If I trust Water for joking and no one so far interpreted it as anything else, then Ayantu is the best candidate.

What specifically did you think was defensive? I actually though ayantu was acting pretty calm and collected despite being at l-2. 
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@WaterPhoenix
yes.
why?
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Also I have never pushed for an Ayyantu lynched. I have voted him because I have an slight scum read on him, but I never said, let's lynch Ayyantu. 
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Also I have never pushed for an Ayyantu lynched. I have voted him because I have an slight scum read on him, but I never said, let's lynch Ayyantu. 
Yeah but not only is your logic horrible, but your scum read on him seems to increase by him responding to you which makes you seem to double down on your read. If you were town being open minded I feel like your pride wouldn't outweigh your ability to scum hunt.
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@Intelligence_06
The things Ayantu is saying are directly a contrast to being defensive. He says he supposes the people on his wagon are town, multiple times. That's the opposite of defensive.
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@Lunatic
Yeah but not only is your logic horrible, but your scum read on him seems to increase by him responding to you which makes you seem to double down on your read.
I'd disagree. It remained the same. I was questioning him because I was confused about his behavior. I didn't shift my tone toward and in fact kept it the same. It's also pretty annoying when you ask his reason, and then says, "lol go back and read," and his only read is from a sarcastic VTL
If you were town being open minded I feel like your pride wouldn't outweigh your ability to scum hunt.
I don't get what you're saying here. I have other option that I am considering, BearMan and SirAnon being my other people
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Ayyantu (3/6) - Water, Supa, Intel

Intelligence (3/6) - Greyparrot, Danielle, BearMan

Supa (2/6) - Ayyantu, Lunatic 

Lunatic (1/6) - Croc



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intelligence is the one of the wagon I am unsure of, because I know how easily convinced of easy wagons he is. I used that to my advantage as scum in speed's game. Not giving him a full excuse there, but the people on the wagon that surprise me most are supa and water. Bear I just feel is straight up scum at this point, but supa needs to be questioned.
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@Vader
I'd disagree. It remained the same. I was questioning him because I was confused about his behavior. I didn't shift my tone toward and in fact kept it the same. It's also pretty annoying when you ask his reason, and then says, "lol go back and read," and his only read is from a sarcastic VTL
I find it kind of ironic you thought he was scum trying to push a mislynch when he was the only one on water, besides me at the time (I was clearly joking) but you are okay participating on a lynch wagon on him with much more support. If he was really scum going for an easy mislynch he would be on intelligence right now. The irony comes in when you consider that you are on him and the wagon is quite large, making you a hypocrite for doing the exact thing you are accusing him of doing as scum, but better.

I don't get what you're saying here. I have other option that I am considering, BearMan and SirAnon being my other people
Open minded in regards to your read on him, not other people. Scum have incentive to scum read multiple people too. 
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Second scum read is bearman, who is equally pushing a mislynch for as sh1tty reasons, but the fact that bearman thinks he knows his role but won't out it even though he thinks ayyu is scum makes me really nervous him. 
Apparently in your logic outting a role is scum and not outting a role is also scum? What the hell do you want me to do man?
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Second scum read is bearman, who is equally pushing a mislynch for as sh1tty reasons, but the fact that bearman thinks he knows his role but won't out it even though he thinks ayyu is scum makes me really nervous him. Not even sure why he would say that, except for as trying to earn town cred by seeming super smart like he did with that1user in naruto by publicly outting she thought she was the doctor. If town thinks they have info like that, they keep it to themselves. Also why pressure the guy if he thinks he already knows his role, except that he's already made up his mind to lynch them and there's conveniently a wagon of 4 there?
Read the dp, more carefully this time...

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oops forgot to ping

Above B)
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@BearMan
Apparently in your logic outting a role is scum and not outting a role is also scum? What the hell do you want me to do man?
Why not out your theory if you think he is scum? Why hide it
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@Lunatic
I don't think he's scum
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@Lunatic
Like I said, read the DP more carefully...