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@ILikePie5
That’s why I used a hypothetical rather than an imperative
Interesting that you chose not to highlight the hypothetical where they are both town then.
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@Lunatic
Yea you have a point. I might be too jumpy. But let's wait and see. I'm not so eager to jump on his train just yet
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@Lunatic
Interesting that you chose not to highlight the hypothetical where they are both town then.
Is it not obvious to you?
I'm eating lunch in a bit
Er, I am a bit lost here on how you arrived to this conclusion. Not the recruiter part, but the part about skittlez being the recruiter.
No you're probably right. Intel is claiming he did the visiting and no watch/tracks claims are out there so he's more likely to be telling the truth there. Also, if skitz was telling the truth about RB DP1, he would be the most appetizing candidate for recruitment
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@oromagi
Well I wasn't aware that my PM says that the mimic I have isn't the normal mimic. It is a variant in which the person I visit doesn't lose their role. I forgot to include it in my claim before because I wasn't aware that it was not the normal mimic. Sorry
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@Lunatic
What changed? Wasn't the whole reason you counter claimed him was because you thought the logic about multiple vanillas in a rolemad game was scummy?
This is what changed. He gave us a headroom of 4 vanillas. Plus, the more I think about it, the less Warren claiming vanilla as scum makes sense... I'm maintaining suspicion on Warren, but he is nearer to null territory rn for me.
This is actually another reason I scum read pie, for the exact reason you mention. Just because bullish confirmed that rolemad may allow for vanillas, doesn't mean that his initial FOS on vanillas were wrong, yet he dropped sus on you guys both to a null after bullish said that. It feeds more into my theory that warren and him are a scum team, because the interaction between the two seems contrived as fvck, especially considering how warren town read pie.
Duly noted.
Problem is, Pie only asked Bullish to clarify only AFTER I pressured Pie on it quite a bit.
Was he expecting push back, or was he going to ask Bullish for clarification anyway and decided to delay for more town cred?
Neither of those make much sense. Warren was inactive for a while, and it seemed to me like Pie was entirely willing to lynch him within that time. He had no reservations about it at all, which seems like unnecessary risk for the scum team. I mean, who was to say everyone wouldn't just go along with it before Warren got back? I probably would've if it weren't for the fact I'm vanilla.
Plus, if they were scum team, why not have Warren claim something not so scummy? Something obviously fitting the rolemadness. I mean, Bullish said he would be hinting as to which roles were available for the scum team to claim... Pie is smart, so why would he take that risk?
The only other possibility was that since Warren hadn't read the day phases, he simply false claimed something random without really thinking about it too hard because he was worried, and Pie just bussed him from there. From my limited experience with Warren, doesn't seem like something he would do.
The only other possibility was that since Warren hadn't read the day phases, he simply false claimed something random without really thinking about it too hard because he was worried, and Pie just bussed him from there. From my limited experience with Warren, doesn't seem like something he would do.
It seems to me that either Pie is scum, or Warren is scum, but probably not both. I'm really leaning towards Pie.
You don't find it odd that warren basically said the same thing you and supa are saying but decided to go with a town read instead?
I find it odd, yes. That is part of the reason that, even though a Pie/Warren team doesn't make much sense to me, I think it is worth maintaining some suspicion on Warren.
Of course, it could just be a genuine town read for him. If Pie is 50/50 scum or town power role, Warren could certainly make the case for town Pie based on nuances in behavior.
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@Intelligence_06
->@oromagiWell I wasn't aware that my PM says that the mimic I have isn't the normal mimic. It is a variant in which the person I visit doesn't lose their role. I forgot to include it in my claim before because I wasn't aware that it was not the normal mimic. Sorry
but that's not nearly good enough, man
You actually reached out and grabbed a specific role description and included it with your claim. That role description contradicts your claim here. You can't tell me you didn't read that dynamic and we also know you go out and read the play advice for you role from various sites (as do I).
Nope, I think you are caught red handed. If you want to live one more night for a chance to recruit once more, you can give up skittlez entirely and we'll lynch him first.
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@MisterChris
I'm really leaning towards Pie.
Are you just relying this based on my activity?
Welp I watched a YouTube video and came back. IDK what to believe tbh
Ok my travis scott burger is here let me eat
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@ILikePie5
1. Your activity is an indicator yes. Typically when you are proactive you are either scum or a town power role
2. You have been very trigger happy I think. That might just be your normal town play, though.
3. Between the two of you, I think you are more likely to be scum than Warren.
This isn't to say you're a particularly STRONG scumread. You're just the best I got.
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@ILikePie5
That said, Intel is looking more and more scum as this day phase goes on.
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@skittlez09
what is your NP report as specifically as possible?
Intelligence looks really scummy right now. The problem is I can see him making the mistake as town too but I don't know if that should excuse him.
Also there I can't let go of the scum read on pie/warrens oddity.
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@Vader
Ok my travis scott burger is here let me eat
You had McD's delivered? Quelle bourgeoise.
I don't really know the work of Travis Scott but the meal deal came up the other day and my sister-in-law says, "pfffh, I would never order a Travis Scott burger" then I read what in the meal deal and my nephew says "Mom, that is exactly what you order from Mcdonald's every time, including side of BBQ sauce!"
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@Intelligence_06
what is your PM as specifically as possible without getting yourself ejected
Like everyone said, Intel is very scummy. Tbh I don't think skittlez is mafia. I think Intel was doing that for town cred.
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@MisterChris
This isn't to say you're a particularly STRONG scumread. You're just the best I got.
So it’s a 50/50 shot that you’d take a power role out and you’d be fine with that?
It's likely that Intel is playing with experienced players, I don't think he would've done this if he was new.
If Intelligence is telling the truth then Skitlez will be confirmed town
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@ILikePie5
So it’s a 50/50 shot that you’d take a power role out and you’d be fine with that?
Hell yeah. A 50/50 shot at scum? That's a no-brainer.
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@BearMan
Like everyone said, Intel is very scummy. Tbh I don't think skittlez is mafia. I think Intel was doing that for town cred.
the theory skitz was town last DP and then got recruited. RB is a good recruit target and it gives SCUM an RB power to use to confirm Intel's claim if necessary
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@ILikePie5
If Intelligence is telling the truth then Skitlez will be confirmed town
That's true. Do you think it's worth an Intelligence lynch just to confirm/expose the both of them?
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@oromagi
Skitz got recruited? So there are 5 scum now? That doesn't make any sense, it would be completely scum-sided for that.
My theory is that none of them are mafia, and Intel had an honest mistake.
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@MisterChris
That's true. Do you think it's worth an Intelligence lynch just to confirm/expose the both of them?
I would be supportive of this course of action. Even if Intel is town, his utility would be practically meaningless. If Skitlez is confirmed then we can start using him on people we scumread
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@BearMan
Skitz got recruited? So there are 5 scum now? That doesn't make any sense, it would be completely scum-sided for that.
Where are you getting 5 from?
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@MisterChris
That's true. Do you think it's worth an Intelligence lynch just to confirm/expose the both of them?
Let's pressure him for PM that says "oh BTW your target keeps their power" that's a crazy overpower claim without precedent in 3 different ROLE wikis. Let's also grant him a one night clemency if confirms skittlez is scum.
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@ILikePie5
3 mafia
+Skitz
+Intel
@BearManSkitz got recruited? So there are 5 scum now? That doesn't make any sense, it would be completely scum-sided for that.Where are you getting 5 from?
I am thinking 3
2 in DP1 + 1 in NP