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@Vader
The Mimic role is a variant role for how it works. It depends on how the mod uses it.
but Intel posted a link to explain the way his role works
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@BearMan
Chris on the other hand, counterclaimed Warren. I still somewhat believe that there is only one vanilla. But, we will have to see in the coming DP's.
I am becoming a little more open to the possibility of the two vanillas being scum together, but only because of what you are mentioning here with an added part. Chris thought it was wierd that there was two vanillas and counter claimed warren, suggesting he thought rolemad meant there was less vanillas. His opinion on this seems to more or less be the same even with bullish revealing that rolemad allows for vanillas, yet he changed his scum read on warren to null.
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@Lunatic
This is actually another reason I scum read pie, for the exact reason you mention. Just because bullish confirmed that rolemad may allow for vanillas, doesn't mean that his initial FOS on vanillas were wrong, yet he dropped sus on you guys both to a null after bullish said that. It feeds more into my theory that warren and him are a scum team, because the interaction between the two seems contrived as fvck, especially considering how warren town read pie.
I actually agree with this, now thinking about it Pie could easily use his mod psyching stuff as scum
I don't agree that Warren is scum tho
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@Speedrace
Your reasoning makes no sense at all to be quite honest with you. I scum read her because I thought she was making faulty assumptions off little reasoning and was being somewhat anti town in this game
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@oromagi
but Intel posted a link to explain the way his role works
Intel isn't known for being a reliable source lol
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@Vader
Your reasoning makes no sense at all to be quite honest with you. I scum read her because I thought she was making faulty assumptions off little reasoning and was being somewhat anti town in this game
My read on you has nothing to do with your read on her lol
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@Lunatic
I see what you're saying. Chris was probably tugging at warren for being inactive and persuaded him to claim. BUT, I don't believe they could've gained anything by pulling off such a risky gamibt, besides giving Chris cred which he already had. I would argue that he would've lost cred by CC'ing him.
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@Speedrace
I actually agree with this, now thinking about it Pie could easily use his mod psyching stuff as scumI don't agree that Warren is scum tho
The main reason for warren, is the fact that he basically town read pie in the same sentence that he said pie has a chance of being 50/50 mafia. When I asked him why, he said he felt town from his posts from dp1, but the previous post was prior to reading day phase 1. So it's post justification for town reading him, also combined with pie dropping him to a null. I can see a case where they are scum buddies and that bus attempt was supposed to distance them, but with how fast they dropped their reads on each other, it seems contrived.
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@oromagi
Tbh, he posted a link from a shitty site...
Quote from MU:
Quote from MU:
The Mimic is a town-aligned role that once per game may target another player at night and learn their alignment. Depending on what alignment that player has, the Mimic will be converted into a different role.
We also know Bullish said this is a rolemad. My role has a variant to it as well, so I'm willing to believe this isn't the idle type of Mimic.
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@Speedrace
But you said I was the only one that picked upped on her soft claim. Ok? You don't think that someone like scum would know this and intentional do it to try to frame me?
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@Speedrace
@oromagibut Intel posted a link to explain the way his role worksIntel isn't known for being a reliable source lol
but Intel is and Intel knew he a transformed a PR to a VANILLA and didn't mention during the how many VANILLAs discussion
epic mafia and drafterman's list agree that if Intel was telling the truth, skittlez became VANILLA overnight
mafiascum.net does not have a MIMIC role
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@Lunatic
So it's post justification for town reading him, also combined with pie dropping him to a null. I can see a case where they are scum buddies and that bus attempt was supposed to distance them, but with how fast they dropped their reads on each other, it seems contrived.
Why wouldn’t I drop to null? Bullish confirmed it’s possible to have multiple vanillas. In his last game he had multiple vanillas. If you want to sus Warren for his flip flop that’s fine with me. I adjusted my viewpoint based on Bullish.
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@Intelligence_06
When you mimic a role, does it convert the person you the role from into a vanilla?
I feel like Speed is using this WIFOM of Supa thought Danielle was inv, and surprise, she's dead and Supa probably killed her because Supa is paranoid AF and bad scum bla bla bla. I think this Speed forcing a mislynch off the NP when no evidence was presented to suggest that. I feel this is a Speed mafia move.
You steal the role from *
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@Vader
-->@oromagiTbh, he posted a link from a shitty site...Quote from MU:The Mimic is a town-aligned role that once per game may target another player at night and learn their alignment. Depending on what alignment that player has, the Mimic will be converted into a different role.We also know Bullish said this is a rolemad. My role has a variant to it as well, so I'm willing to believe this isn't the idle type of Mimic.
WTF?
why are you editing out the part that confirms what I just said?
The Mimic is a town-aligned role that once per game may target another player at night and learn their alignment. Depending on what alignment that player has, the Mimic will be converted into a different role. If the targeted player is town (or Godfather), the Mimic will steal their role, and the targeted person will become Vanilla Townie. If the Mimic targets a mafia-aligned player (or a Miller), the Mimic will become a Vanilla Townie. If the Mimic targets a third party or independently aligned player, the Mimic will be converted to an Amnesiac.
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@ILikePie5
Why wouldn’t I drop to null? Bullish confirmed it’s possible to have multiple vanillas. In his last game he had multiple vanillas. If you want to sus Warren for his flip flop that’s fine with me. I adjusted my viewpoint based on Bullish.
His last game wasn't a standard mafia game. Also bullish confirming that vanillas could potentially exist doesn't refute your initial FOS that multiple vanillas in a rolemad game should receive the most FOS.
You seemed to drop them to a null a little too easily from that.
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@Vader
@oromagi
Supa it is a little wierd that you only copied the part that you wanted to out of that and left out the rest of the role.
I'd like an explanation ASAP.
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@Lunatic
His last game wasn't a standard mafia game. Also bullish confirming that vanillas could potentially exist doesn't refute your initial FOS that multiple vanillas in a rolemad game should receive the most FOS.
Ya his previous game was Poker. I’m talking about the one before that Memes Mafia (the one Chris linked). Based on that it’s more likely than not there are vanillas in the game.
You seemed to drop them to a null a little too easily from that.
Based on Bullish and his past rolemad game
If Intel is telling the truth, then he converted RB to VANILLA and said nothing about it and skittlez also said nothing about it.
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@Lunatic
@oromagi
Well that's what in theory what the role is.
I said that it could be a variant where that person doesn't lose their role. My role has a variant. The bottom stuff would be in theory false. I included the only true thing I thought. I think this role is a variant of a mimic. There are already variants in game with danielle, my role, and I think this is a variant
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@Intelligence_06
So yeah, I am Deepfake and I am a mimic. If I mimic a town I become their role. If I mimic a scum I become a towie. I mimic'd Skittlez and I became a roleblocker. That would mean he is town.
Can you confirm that your role explicitly says that you turn the person you visit into a vanilla?
We also said this isn't a normal game. We need to stop overanalyzing roles and utilities and variants because we clearly see there is, and too scum read someone because of it is foolish
I might also say that my role offers indirect evidence of SCUM recruitment
If I am right, then skitz is the likely recruiter and should be prioritized
VTL skittlez09
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@oromagi
If Intel is telling the truth, then he converted RB to VANILLA and said nothing about it and skittlez also said nothing about it.
If we want to move on this, Optimal play is lynching Skitlez. If he’s scum then Intel has to be scum cause he’s lying about his role. If he’s still RB and town then Intelligence has to be lying. If we lynch Intel and he’s scum it doesn’t confirm Skitlez
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@Vader
I said that it could be a variant where that person doesn't lose their role. My role has a variant. The bottom stuff would be in theory false. I included the only true thing I thought. I think this role is a variant of a mimic. There are already variants in game with danielle, my role, and I think this is a variant
It could be a variant, but you also decidely believe it is, and are mis-representing the role by posting only half of it to encourage that idea. That is interesting.
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@ILikePie5
If we want to move on this, Optimal play is lynching Skitlez. If he’s scum then Intel has to be scum cause he’s lying about his role. If he’s still RB and town then Intelligence has to be lying. If we lynch Intel and he’s scum it doesn’t confirm Skitlez
An easy way to get two mislynches, if you don't account for them both being town.
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@oromagi
I might also say that my role offers indirect evidence of SCUM recruitmentIf I am right, then skitz is the likely recruiter and should be prioritizedVTL skittlez09
Er, I am a bit lost here on how you arrived to this conclusion. Not the recruiter part, but the part about skittlez being the recruiter.
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@Lunatic
An easy way to get two mislynches, if you don't account for them both being town.
That’s why I used a hypothetical rather than an imperative