Note to self: Supadudz is too lazy to even read 1 sentence posts all the way through lol
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@Lunatic
Because I hadn't read D1 when I made the initial read, like I said, and I had read D1 before answering your question, also like I said.
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@Lunatic
Behavioral analysis for Pie for me if he's active he's a power role or scum for me. So he's one of those two. I'm willing to lynch Pie off that alone, but I need some insight. I'm still catching up in game
I've also maintained this motion for a while. If you look in a lot of games where I'm scum and Pie was a PR, he'd die first DP because of his behavior. It happened in live mafia as well when I was partners with warren. The same thing when vice verse I say the same thing.
Btw after clarification I fully buy Intel's claim. But both of you should continue to waive your action (assuming you did so N1 skittlez) for the same reasons Lunatic and Danielle outlined in D1
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@Lunatic
@oromagi
I just got home and half assed scrolled through my phone lmao. And yes I finished. Started at 8am after a 30min drive and got home at 1:20pm
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@warren42
Because I hadn't read D1 when I made the initial read, like I said, and I had read D1 before answering your question, also like I said.
That makes even LESS sense. You prefaced your read of him saying he was town, then followed it up with he could equally be mafia, but didn't retract the town read.
Pie is probably town in my opinion. He's certainly not vanilla in case that wasn't yet clear, but based on meta he's also probably not a town negative utility role. He's either scum or town and has a positive utility.
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@Lunatic
I used all my brain energy today lmao. I'll catch up properly and give true thoughts an analysis
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@Vader
Behavioral analysis for Pie for me if he's active he's a power role or scum for me. So he's one of those two. I'm willing to lynch Pie off that alone, but I need some insight. I'm still catching up in game
Ok?
I've also maintained this motion for a while. If you look in a lot of games where I'm scum and Pie was a PR, he'd die first DP because of his behavior. It happened in live mafia as well when I was partners with warren. The same thing when vice verse I say the same thing.
So what’re u trying to say? If you were scum you’d have killed me first? Based on my behavior for majority of DP1 you’d have to guess I’m not a PR. If you killings PRs is correct then you would’ve killed Danielle because she soft claimed a power role per your own admission. I haven’t been lynched DP1 for as long as I can remember which is why I’m assuming you’re talking about NKs.
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@warren42
Skittlez's meta is too claim early. Granted it is a terrible meta, I don't have any behavioral reads on him to warrant him being scum IMO. His behavior has been consistent with his town play despite it being bad.
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@oromagi
@MisterChris
Reads on warren, pie, and supa?
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@Speedrace
@BearMan
Thoughts on things so far?
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@Lunatic
Reads on
I don't like warren's VANILLA but at least he has claimed something
Pie and Supa could totally be scum- lean Pie for aggressive play
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@ILikePie5
Behavioral analysis for Pie for me if he's active he's a power role or scum for me. So he's one of those two. I'm willing to lynch Pie off that alone, but I need some insight. I'm still catching up in gameOk?I've also maintained this motion for a while. If you look in a lot of games where I'm scum and Pie was a PR, he'd die first DP because of his behavior. It happened in live mafia as well when I was partners with warren. The same thing when vice verse I say the same thing.So what’re u trying to say? If you were scum you’d have killed me first?
Not necessarily. I wouldn't know if I would or not because I am not scum, so I wasn't thinking about that
Based on my behavior for majority of DP1 you’d have to guess I’m not a PR.
You were active and contributing enough to where you could be a PR. You could also be somewhat lurking. I said in that post, I need more analysis on your behavior to determine that
If you killings PRs is correct then you would’ve killed Danielle because she soft claimed a power role per your own admission. I haven’t been lynched DP1 for as long as I can remember which is why I’m assuming you’re talking about NKs.
I'm not playing this game of what if's because I think it's stupid. I'm not implying anything by saying that.
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@Vader
Yes, I mimic’s skittlez and I became a roleblocker.
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@Vader
Not necessarily. I wouldn't know if I would or not because I am not scum, so I wasn't thinking about that
So what was the purpose of that shpeel?
You were active and contributing enough to where you could be a PR. You could also be somewhat lurking. I said in that post, I need more analysis on your behavior to determine that
For the last 3 hours but ok?
I'm not playing this game of what if's because I think it's stupid. I'm not implying anything by saying that.
So what’s the purpose of you saying what you said. How does it make me scum?
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@Lunatic
Warren- null at the moment.
If you'll recall what I said to Pie and Supa:
Well, even though Pie was wrong that "no one can be vanilla," the mod has said that there must very few non-power roles.If that's the case, it makes more sense to me to have one vanilla... not two. But I could be wrong about that. It's clear Bullish is defying our expectations here.
As for the possibility of him and Pie being a team... his argument for Pie being a townread makes sense I suppose... I'm just not sure if it's an argument expected from him given the current situation (keep in mind I've not played with Warren at all. I don't know what his meta is for town or scum).
Pie- Pie is my biggest scumread at the moment, because he is lining up pretty closely with how he was in the Naruto mafia game.
Furthermore, I pretty much agree with Supa's analysis:
Behavioral analysis for Pie for me if he's active he's a power role or scum for me. So he's one of those two.
If we have even a 60/40 shot he is mafia, I'll take it.
Supa- Supa seemed a lot more hesitant to drill into Warren and me for our vanilla claims than Pie was. He also has been pretty protective of Skittlez, who has come out as town. I townread him right now. In fact, he has been so insistent on wanting evidence for lynches, it's a pretty strong townread from me.
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@ILikePie5
You were active and contributing enough to where you could be a PR. You could also be somewhat lurking. I said in that post, I need more analysis on your behavior to determine thatFor the last 3 hours but ok?
I'm talking DP. You were active in general
I'm not playing this game of what if's because I think it's stupid. I'm not implying anything by saying that.So what’s the purpose of you saying what you said. How does it make me scum?
I'm not implying you are scum. I never said that. I was taking notes on something. That wasn't a scumread on you,
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@Vader
I'm not implying you are scum. I never said that. I was taking notes on something. That wasn't a scumread on you,
What are the notes? You still haven’t explained them lol. What are you considering in terms of my behavior?
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@MisterChris
Pie is my biggest scumread at the moment, because he is lining up pretty closely with how he was in the Naruto mafia game.
So you’re basing your scumread off of my activity?
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@ILikePie5
I said that you are either PR or Scum. By suggesting my post, I think the person who's scum is not a believer in behavioral analysis to determine a NK
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@Lunatic
Nothing is more satisfying than lynching scum for a behavioral read.
Fr those magic and max lynches last night *chef's kiss*
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@Vader
I said that you are either PR or Scum.
I got that part
By suggesting my post, I think the person who's scum is not a believer in behavioral analysis to determine a NK
Why?
I have totally revamped my thinking
Intel claims to have mimicked RB and acquired RB skill. According to the role description included by Intel that would transform skittlez into VANILLA. He would have rec'd some post overnight saying he's now VANILLA
but
skittlez has posted 7 times without mentioning that he lost his PR overnight. I have posted a board with two RB's and neither Intel or skittlez corrected.
During the "how many VANILLAs" dispute, skittlez said nothing and Intel said there is probably only one VANILLA when his claimed night action added one VANILLA to the game- which he did not see fit to say then but claims out of the blue now.
My theory is that skittlez is scum recruiter who successfully recruited Intel last night.
For reads, I think Pie is town becasuse this mod psyching thing he's doing is exactly what he did in my own game as town.
I town read warren and Chris for the vanilla claims, also Intel + skittlez for the mimic stuff
I think Supa is scum because he's the only person who (somehow??) picked up on Danielle being an investigative role last DP and lo and behold, she's dead
VTL SupaDudz
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@Lunatic
Intel's claim on mimic makes sense. He confirmed Skittlez as town. Therefore unless Intelligence is proven to be scum, we can safely assume both of them are town, or both of them are scum (which is not very likely). What I'm confused is that we said that roleblocker wouldn't really help town, and Intel still chose to mimic Skittlez.
Warren and Chris are at a different hand. Warren seems like he's trying to go all buddy-buddy with Chris, because both of them are vanilla. I don't buy that he was trying to out himself to "help" town. He was pressured during DP1 but that was only thrown out there because of inactivity. There was no real reason for him to claim.
Chris on the other hand, counterclaimed Warren. I still somewhat believe that there is only one vanilla. But, we will have to see in the coming DP's. That said, Unvote.
Town-
Oromagi (oromagi did the weird clue thing again, making him probably town)
SupaDudz (confusion, idk what role he is, but he's def benefited town)
Pie (pretty much scum or power role. Judging by what he did for town this DP, I'd say power role)
BearMan(I'm town)
Skittlez(explained)
Intel (explained)
Lunatic (benefited town)
Chris (he wouldn't randomly cc if he was scum)
Lean Scum-
Warren(explained)
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@MisterChris
Warren- null at the moment.
What changed? Wasn't the whole reason you counter claimed him was because you thought the logic about multiple vanillas in a rolemad game was scummy?
If you'll recall what I said to Pie and Supa:Well, even though Pie was wrong that "no one can be vanilla," the mod has said that there must very few non-power roles.If that's the case, it makes more sense to me to have one vanilla... not two. But I could be wrong about that. It's clear Bullish is defying our expectations here.As for the possibility of him and Pie being a team... his argument for Pie being a townread makes sense I suppose... I'm just not sure if it's an argument expected from him given the current situation (keep in mind I've not played with Warren at all. I don't know what his meta is for town or scum).Pie- Pie is my biggest scumread at the moment, because he is lining up pretty closely with how he was in the Naruto mafia game.
This is actually another reason I scum read pie, for the exact reason you mention. Just because bullish confirmed that rolemad may allow for vanillas, doesn't mean that his initial FOS on vanillas were wrong, yet he dropped sus on you guys both to a null after bullish said that. It feeds more into my theory that warren and him are a scum team, because the interaction between the two seems contrived as fvck, especially considering how warren town read pie.
Furthermore, I pretty much agree with Supa's analysis:Behavioral analysis for Pie for me if he's active he's a power role or scum for me. So he's one of those two.If we have even a 60/40 shot he is mafia, I'll take it.
You don't find it odd that warren basically said the same thing you and supa are saying but decided to go with a town read instead?
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@Speedrace
She soft claimed an investigative role by saying she'd target someone.
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@oromagi
I think the role just works differently lol
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@Speedrace
@oromagiI think the role just works differently lol
explain
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@oromagi
The Mimic role is a variant role for how it works. It depends on how the mod uses it.