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@skittlez09
Who did you target last night
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@ILikePie5
So yeah, I am Deepfake and I am a mimic. If I mimic a town I become their role. If I mimic a scum I become a towie. I mimic'd Skittlez and I became a roleblocker. That would mean he is town. 



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@ILikePie5
If by aggressive you mean active, I’m always active when I have a role. You can WIFOM that all day.
Maybe. 

Bullish’s definition of rolemadness is stupid. Speed doesn’t have vanillas in his rolemadness games and neither do I. I’ve been a supporter of first day lynches since the beginning. I supported the lynches of Chris and Warren cause they both were vanilla. Using mine and Speed’s definition they’re both scum which is where the bussing theory comes in. The definition Bullish uses is garbage. I know not to play in any of his games now even if he says rolemadness 
Your dis-like of vanillas is strange, but how does bullish'es response effect your read on warren and chris?
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I honestly don't know if Intel is just still getting used to the game and wanted to lynch an inactive but I feel like I could make a coherent argument that my slot had as much of an impact on D1 as his did, so I'm a little skeptical of him pushing for that lynch.
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@Intelligence_06
Interesting. So did you start as 3rd party? Or do you mean you become a vanilla townie if you mimic scum?
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@warren42
Pie is probably town in my opinion. He's certainly not vanilla in case that wasn't yet clear, but based on meta he's also probably not a town negative utility role. He's either scum or town and has a positive utility.
How did you turn this into a town read on pie? Like what?
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N. Danielle                   BiNG        ROLECOP (random)
TOWN
N. oromagi
N. BearMan
N. Intelligence_06     Deep Fake  MIMIC  >>  ROLEBLOCKER
N(W). skittlez09                 VPN      ROLEBLOCKER
N. MisterChris      Chromebook     VANILLA
N. Speedrace
N. SupaDudz
N. Lunatic
N. ILikePie5
10. Warren2         Smartfridge         VANILLA
SCUM


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@warren42
That said, if there are any more vanillas, you should probably full claim immediately. I know this helps mafia narrow down the pool of who to kill, but with how bloodthirsty these people are for vanillas I think you essentially have to full claim. I honestly will start to become suspicious of anyone who full claims vanilla after too long because it's become such an issue that anyone who is actually vanilla would be concerned enough that they would (and should) claim before the end of the day.
Why would you advocate for more vanillas claiming now that bullish has clarified the defintion of "rolemad"? You are right, it definitely helps narrow down the pool for scum.  Me and SirAnonymous were able to deduce most of the power roles last phase due to unnecesary claiming. 
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Your dis-like of vanillas is strange, but how does bullish'es response effect your read on warren and chris?
Why is it strange? It’s boring. I’ve been pretty vocal about that. There’s a reason why my games are proper role madness games.

It makes it more likely that at least one of em is town. 
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I will preface this by saying I powered through D1 and might be changing my mind on that I want to talk about some stuff with Pie but:
It was mostly a gut read but the way he'd been talking made me tone read him town
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@warren42
This is in regard to skittlez's roleblocker claim. I agree that it's good he was upfront if he's town but it doesn't seem that that was *why* he was upfront. Does that bother you at all? It does bother me a bit.
Skittlez has claimed dp1 as town in like the last 3 or 4 games.
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last game, not phase*
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Specifically because of how bloodthirsty for vanillas this group is. They don't seem to care that Bullish said it could be up to four vanillas, they still seem to think that at least one of me and Mr. Chris is scum because we both claimed vanilla. I think it's bad for vanillas to claim at this point in a vacuum, but with how stubborn the group seems to be about making a bad play I think vanillas almost have to claim here or risk being killed when they do come forward.
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Yeah I see that now, seems (like others said) his meta is essentially the same as GP's.
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If Intelligence is town then Skitlez must be town

If Skitlez is scum then Intelligence must be scum
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@Lunatic
Me and SirAnonymous were able to deduce most of the power roles last phase 
scum slip
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Why is it strange? It’s boring. I’ve been pretty vocal about that. There’s a reason why my games are proper role madness games.
Vanilla is my favorite role as town. I can play as aggressively as I want and scum hunt without worry of being seen as a power role; If killed over a power role I know I have 100% helped the town. If mislynched, not a huge loss either. It's a lot less pressure, and ultimately, results shouldn't be relied on to solve games. Mods on this site have strayed away from investigation detering roles, so maybe you have gotten a bit comfortable relying on power roles. But back on DDO mods tended to use a bit more result effecting roles like lawyer or framer, or gave cops flavors more often. People relying on results like that would just lose games. If you can't play a game without a power role, that's kind of boring. Nothing is more satisfying than lynching scum for a behavioral read.

It makes it more likely that at least one of em is town. 

So no scum read on chris or warren anymore?
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scum slip
lmao luckily siranonymous isn't even in this game.
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@Lunatic
Vanilla is my favorite role as town. I can play as aggressively as I want and scum hunt without worry of being seen as a power role; If killed over a power role I know I have 100% helped the town. If mislynched, not a huge loss either. It's a lot less pressure, and ultimately, results shouldn't be relied on to solve games. Mods on this site have strayed away from investigation detering roles, so maybe you have gotten a bit comfortable relying on power roles. But back on DDO mods tended to use a bit more result effecting roles like lawyer or framer, or gave cops flavors more often. People relying on results like that would just lose games. If you can't play a game without a power role, that's kind of boring. Nothing is more satisfying than lynching scum for a behavioral read.
To each their own.

So no scum read on chris or warren anymore?
They’re both null
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Specifically because of how bloodthirsty for vanillas this group is. They don't seem to care that Bullish said it could be up to four vanillas, they still seem to think that at least one of me and Mr. Chris is scum because we both claimed vanilla. I think it's bad for vanillas to claim at this point in a vacuum, but with how stubborn the group seems to be about making a bad play I think vanillas almost have to claim here or risk being killed when they do come forward.
Most of the willingness to lynch vanillas was prior to bullish elaborating on rolemad though. Even pie seems to have dropped his read.
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@warren42
Yes. I am a town role and when I mimic scum I become vanilla
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@Intelligence_06
So are you a Mimic then? 
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@Intelligence_06
Did you mimic anyone
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lmao luckily siranonymous isn't even in this game.
lynch all liars:
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@warren42
I will preface this by saying I powered through D1 and might be changing my mind on that I want to talk about some stuff with Pie but:
It was mostly a gut read but the way he'd been talking made me tone read him town

How come you didn't say that when you wrote your initial read? The read seemed a bit contrived because you followed the read up by saying he could equally be scum or town, though you didn't retract the read. It doesn't help with my theory that you two are scum partners.

Pie's attempt at lynching you seems faked to me and he seemed all to willing to drop the pressure as soon as bullish claimed. I think he knew the answer and planned the whole thing to create distance between the two of you, and set you up for the vanilla claim. I think misterchris's claim was an unexpected hitch in the plan, which makes sense why pie was eager to switch on him.

This all sounds conspiracy af, but your read on pie has kind of made the idea solidify in my head. 
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@Vader
Did you mimic anyone

Intel gave claim and night action in the same post.  How could absorb role claim and not night action claim>
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@Vader
Did you mimic anyone
How did you read the mimic part, but not the part about who he visited? It was in the same post lol.

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Intel gave claim and night action in the same post.  How could absorb role claim and not night action claim>
Jinx you owe me a coke
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@Vader
also, why aren't you doing you're SATs?