Technology Mafia - DP2

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Then you can continue to live in your fantasy world as much as you need to - 2 Town JOATs with “parallel” roles, whatever the fuck that means
Lol okay scum. Let the record show I have been voting you since the beginning of the phase whenever you eventually get revealed.
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@Lunatic
Oro wants to lynch intelligence but also scum reads me for some dumb reason, and speed is wagoning him. 
I scumread you first but ok. You've literally been accusing Oro of wagoning ME this whole time xD
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Where tf have you seen two JOATs where one isn’t scum and one is. It’s unprecedented and frankly a stupid move by Bullish. 
There has been games with multiple JOAT's before, and it actually makes perfect sense that the power roles were divided between two individuals and the rest of the role mad players are weak versions of some other role or anti town utility. Danielles flip, and skittlez claim demonstrate this
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@Speedrace
I scumread you first but ok. You've literally been accusing Oro of wagoning ME this whole time xD
It doesn't matter, your reasons are still pathetic and devoid of logic.
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@Vader
We wait on what results come in from the night. I still have my Watcher role, and I have until NP3 to live. I can get another investigative role if a Doc, JK, or BP comes in NP3. We will have much more clarity on what goes on.
You previously said NP4. So now you're lying?
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Pie thinking he has a chance to not be lynched, is taking advantage of that quickly forming wagon as well and bandwagoning it. 
See this is just wrong. I was the first person to vote Intel to get him to say something. 
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It doesn't matter, your reasons are still pathetic and devoid of logic.
Whether they are or not, that doesn't mean I'm wagoning lol
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There has been games with multiple JOAT's before, and it actually makes perfect sense that the power roles were divided between two individuals and the rest of the role mad players are weak versions of some other role or anti town utility. Danielles flip, and skittlez claim demonstrate this
Prove it.
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There has been games with multiple JOAT's before,
Links?
and it actually makes perfect sense that the power roles were divided between two individuals and the rest of the role mad players are weak versions of some other role or anti town utility. Danielles flip, and skittlez claim demonstrate this
Except the fact that there are unclaimed PRs but ok
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We wait on what results come in from the night. I still have my Watcher role, and I have until NP3 to live. I can get another investigative role if a Doc, JK, or BP comes in NP3. We will have much more clarity on what goes on.
Do you need to be protected tonight or the following night?
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There has been games with multiple JOAT's before, and it actually makes perfect sense that the power roles were divided between two individuals and the rest of the role mad players are weak versions of some other role or anti town utility. Danielles flip, and skittlez claim demonstrate this
Prove it.
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@Lunatic
Lol okay scum. Let the record show I have been voting you since the beginning of the phase whenever you eventually get revealed.
Sure. You’ll look like a complete idiot cause I’m not scum. 
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You are not listening to why the hell I waited off the list and keep suggesting this. I told you like 5x and you refuse to rebut these points
No you haven’t. Wtf does “I had no information at that time mean?” You weren’t even pressuring me or Oro for a character claim based on your results. You just sat on it until it became opportunistic for you. That’s the scummiest shit I’ve ever seen.

I said the reason was because I was not confident in the results I was given because I knew my results could be manipulated and fmpov, you had behavior that suggested weak PR. As the day progressed, you acted more scummy and scummy by refusing to claim (when you are being voted), not listening to the points given by Lunatic, and getting more and more defensive. Oromagi is usually always is a scum for the reason of tunneling and over theorizing in this game. I felt then it was the right time to out my results because I was becoming more confident in you being scum.
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NP3
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@Speedrace
I die NP4 without a question. It's DP2, NP2 I use watcher and go into DP3. In NP3 I die unless a protective role heals me. I gain an investigative role that NP and use it. I die NP4
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@Speedrace
Links?
I've played in hundreds of games, I don't remember which games I've seen them but I know I have. Link to where it's written by the mod that there can't be two?

Except the fact that there are unclaimed PRs but ok
Impossible. Me and supa are the power roles, or anyone that claims one from this point on is probably lying. Pie hinting at one is enough already for me to think he is scum.
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@Speedrace
You are basing a vote
I'm not voting you
You are scum reading me

off that fact I am a technological concept and you don't interpret my concept that way.
No, off the fact that you're an ECONOMICAL concept
No it isn't. Replacing hardware of misused technology is not a economic concept. It is a technical concept that gives companies and advantage economically, but it isn't as such
Tell me why is your thinking correct.
Because you don't relate to technology
It does
Bullish said that there are such things.
He said that there are concepts, but not thing relating to economics
It isn't an economic concept

If I were fake claiming, why would I make my role a concept if I knew that most were products.
I'm not scum reading the fact that you're a concept, I'm scum reading the fact that you don't relate to technology
It is
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Listen Oromagi, if you scum read me in every game, stastically your going to be right some of the time, but odds are much more likely that I am going to be town.
If you paid attention to anybody's claims except your own, you would see that you only fourth likeliest scum in my estimation- there are three people I would lynch before you in any 11 person game.  That's not even probably scum at this point.

N. Danielle                   BiNG        ROLECOP (random)
TOWN
N. oromagi  
N. BearMan              Pubkey Crypt
N. MisterChris      Chromebook     VANILLA
N. Speedrace   Game hdphone
N. SupaDudz      Plnd.  Obs.         JOAT (suicidal)  1XDREAMER, 1XWATCHER
N. ILikePie5        Photolithography (dp3)
N. Lunatic             the CLOUD        JOAT (concealed)
10. Warren2         Smartfridge         VANILLA
N(W). skittlez09                 VPN      ROLEBLOCKER
N. Intelligence_06     Deep Fake  MIMIC  >>  ROLEBLOCKER
SCUM

The fact that you are feeling persecuted is likely a manifestation of your scum guilt.  I scum read you all last game because you were scum all last game.  I did not scum read once in the game before that although you were quickly killed off.  As I said in the last game, I find you hard to read so when you refuse to play as town and refuse to acknowledge how hard your claim is to accept, you naturally drop in the polls.  That's not just my reads, that's everybody.


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@Lunatic
I've played in hundreds of games, I don't remember which games I've seen them but I know I have. Link to where it's written by the mod that there can't be two?
You have the BoP to prove that those games exist lol

Impossible. Me and supa are the power roles, or anyone that claims one from this point on is probably lying. Pie hinting at one is enough already for me to think he is scum.
You would never say this as town lol
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I might REALLY, REALLY regret this, but I'm going to townread Supa for now, and keep null on Lunatic. The defensiveness from Lunatic + Supa's appeal really read town to me, especially since scum would rather this devolve into an argumentative mess. After last game, I will never, ever trust Lunatic ever again, mark my words, but this really looks like town Lunatic to me so I'm going to prioritize more clear scum reads over him (I'm half-joking there, obviously).
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There has been games with multiple JOAT's before, and it actually makes perfect sense that the power roles were divided between two individuals and the rest of the role mad players are weak versions of some other role or anti town utility. Danielles flip, and skittlez claim demonstrate this
Prove it.

I could if I felt like digging through a million games, but I don't need to prove myself to scum. If you want to disprove me, click through every end game in the archives of DDO to prove it how about that? It's your guy's claim that two JOAT's cannot exist in the same game, your BOP.
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@Speedrace
You have the BoP to prove that those games exist lol
YOU made the claim that no two JOAT's ever existed. That's your BOP pal.

You would never say this as town lol
Well I am town so, you have mis-calculated something.
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The fact that you are feeling persecuted is likely a manifestation of your scum guilt.  I scum read you all last game because you were scum all last game.  I did not scum read once in the game before that although you were quickly killed off.  As I said in the last game, I find you hard to read so when you refuse to play as town and refuse to acknowledge how hard your claim is to accept, you naturally drop in the polls.  That's not just my reads, that's everybody.
If you want my claim you know how to get it. Pressure pie with me. put the bastard at l-1, then if he claims you get mine as well. Your list says he is higher on the scum list so why not?
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@Vader
No, off the fact that you're an ECONOMICAL concept
No it isn't. Replacing hardware of misused technology is not a economic concept. It is a technical concept that gives companies and advantage economically, but it isn't as such
"In economics and industrial designplanned obsolescence (also called built-in obsolescence or premature obsolescence) is a policy of planning or designing a product with an artificially limited useful life, so that it becomes obsolete (i.e., unfashionable, or no longer functional) after a certain period of time."

It's not just about replacing technology, it's about products in general. It's not specific to technology, AKA it's an economical concept, as literally any credible source will tell you. Please show me a source saying it is a technological concept.

It isn't an economic concept




Sorry I thought a person with an opinion he can't support said something
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I said the reason was because I was not confident in the results I was given because I knew my results could be manipulated and fmpov, you had behavior that suggested weak PR.
A.) How tf does your role getting manipulated impact anything. Any cop could manipulated but if you get something you still reveal it.

B.) Youre contradicting yourself again. You said I was active and therefore either scum or PR. Where tf did weak PR come from. You’re literally pulling that out of your ass

As the day progressed, you acted more scummy and scummy by refusing to claim (when you are being voted), not listening to the points given by Lunatic, and getting more and more defensive.
Most votes ive had on me is like 4 and that was after you revealed your results so you’re just flat out wrong. Lunatic wasn’t making any points. He was pulling stuff out of his ass too. He called me out for not considering Intel and Skitlez as both town when I literally did before.

Oromagi is usually always is a scum for the reason of tunneling and over theorizing in this game. I felt then it was the right time to out my results because I was becoming more confident in you being scum.
But both me and Oro can’t be scum right? So wtf are you even saying?
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I could if I felt like digging through a million games, but I don't need to prove myself to scum. If you want to disprove me, click through every end game in the archives of DDO to prove it how about that? It's your guy's claim that two JOAT's cannot exist in the same game, your BOP.
Burden of proof is on you to prove a positive: That Two Town JOATs exist. Otherwise they don’t exist.
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Here's one I did remember, very similar to this one actually. investigative JOAT roles were split between viperking and myself.

There are others too, I don't remember. 
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If you want my claim you know how to get it. Pressure pie with me. put the bastard at l-1, then if he claims you get mine as well. Your list says he is higher on the scum list so why not?
I’m not revealing my role period. My role is confirmable tomorrow. How about we put you at L-1 so you claim.
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@Lunatic
YOU made the claim that no two JOAT's ever existed. That's your BOP pal.
I never made that claim, and you can't prove a negative. Also this implies that you aren't claiming that they have existed. So you don't think there is a precedent