Technology Mafia - DP2

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and your power is activated by ingame circumstances?
Huh?
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I think town ignores Intel at its peril.

I worry that some players see Intel's  half-hearted character claim is just newbie but in recent games Intel has been far more active and querying and a careful of the game and literature about the game.

Let's consider that we started the game skitz's RB claim and general agreement that RB has little to no town utility (but obviously major scum utility)  Why would a TOWN mimic go for a negative town utility and so double the harm to town?  Scum, of course, would consider RB a prize worth taking risks for.

Intel's mistake was not to confirm that skittlez was made VANILLA by his act, thereby contradicting all of the literature about that ROLE in spite of demonstrating that he had read the literature about the ROLE and made no effort (as any TOWN should) to warn that his ROLE was way off base.  Since being confronted on this, Intel's gameplay has gone into deep lurk.

Further, Intel's justification sucks.  This is Intel's third try at justification:

 which is just an Ai program. That is just what deepfake is, not my entire role lol
More essentially, deep fake is the ability to edit images undetectably- anybody who has not gone to the wiki page to see Amy Adams using Nick Cage's face should do so ASAP

Intel is bottom read and because I suspect some recruitment (TP Cult leader, perhaps) I think Intel is the priority.  I can't tell if Luna is scum or not but any player that unapologetically claims second JOAT without explanation, role claim, or justification should expect to be lynched and Luna fervent defense is deeply anti-town.  Which makes me think Luna is scum trying to get lynched.  

Warren is playing his scum game, which is to check out entirely as opposed to his town game which is to check in late once or twice per DP.

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=I'm okay with an Intelligence lynch, a Pie lynch, or a Warren lynch. I just want this day phase to be over with LMAO. We're going in circles at this point. 
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Well, what is your character claim? You're the only one keeping secrets at this point. 
you are the first to ask, which demonstrates to me that neither supa or luna ever really thought I was scum in spite of making accusations.  Of course, scum already know who is town and who is not and so sometimes forgets to ask for town credentials.

I am virtual reality
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@oromagi
you are the first to ask, which demonstrates to me that neither supa or luna ever really thought I was scum in spite of making accusations.  Of course, scum already know who is town and who is not and so sometimes forgets to ask for town credentials.

This is actually a really good point. 
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Well, I am deepfake and I am mimic. A deepfake is a technology that can make you appear like anything you want. Deepfake programs are getting better each day and our eyes will be fooled one day. I am a mimic because I can use deepfake to appear like anybody or anything I want.


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All I want in life is an Intel justification and a Lunatic and Pie claim
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@Intelligence_06
Thank you
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@Speedrace
I did, you are welcome
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all that argument but I don't think anybody changed their vote

UVC

pie (3/6) - Lunatic, Chris, Supa,
Intel (2/6) - pie, oro,
Lunatic (1/6) - Speed,
warren (1/6) - Bear,

Not voting: warren, skittle, Intel,


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@Speedrace
All I want in life is an Intel justification and a Lunatic and Pie claim
Help me pressure pie and your wish will be granted on two counts. My claim comes after pie period. If pie doesn't claim I don't either.

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@Lunatic
Not you lmao. I meant Oromagi
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@Lunatic
Oops I meant to ping Oromagi in that post. Apologies
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@Vader
Ah makes more sense. 
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@ILikePie5
I meant do. If you read the full post I was implying town. It was 11:30PM and I was tired. 
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@Lunatic
My brain turned off after 11ish lmao. Too much use of my brain. 
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Can someone brief me on what happened? Y'all are night owls or something
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@Speedrace
You are basing a vote off that fact I am a technological concept and you don't interpret my concept that way. Tell me why is your thinking correct. Bullish said that there are such things. If I were fake claiming, why would I make my role a concept if I knew that most were products. It makes no sense for you to scumread off your perception of a character

This also leads me to saying. I have no idea WTF the theme split is, and I am not going to lynch someone off a theme split assumption
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@BearMan
Can someone brief me on what happened? Y'all are night owls or something

lunatic did his bickering thing.  time to kill Intel
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@oromagi
Intel is bottom read and because I suspect some recruitment (TP Cult leader, perhaps) I think Intel is the priority.  I can't tell if Luna is scum or not but any player that unapologetically claims second JOAT without explanation, role claim, or justification should expect to be lynched and Luna fervent defense is deeply anti-town.  Which makes me think Luna is scum trying to get lynched.  
Listen Oromagi, if you scum read me in every game, stastically your going to be right some of the time, but odds are much more likely that I am going to be town. I can't remember a time where you've ever town read me so I am taking this with a grain of salt. But it is interesting that you didn't mention a scum read on me until after I claimed. If you only read people on how you percieve game mechanics you will be wrong most of the time. You are like Mikal, in that you love to overanalyze things that go absolutely nowhere. 

Why can't there be two JOAT's in this game? Why are you saying that is impossible? JOAT isn't a direct counter claim like cop watch or doc, because it usually encompasses multiple abilities. I think town's power roles were split up between me and supa. Notice danielle's wasn't really a power role. The remaining roles are probably weak version of themselves. 
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Here’s where we are.

1) Intel can be a recruiter of some sort. Lynching him and an inno flip confirms Skitlez as town and we can utilize his ability.

2) Supa and Lunatic both claim Town JOAT. Sups hides his results for more than a day and doesn’t justify it one bit, flip flopping all over the place and not answering my questions. Lunatic immediately says I believe Supa and claims JOAT as well saying his role “parallels” Supa’s role. He defends Supa’s revelations later in the game as well. 

3) I am either a power role or scum because of my activity. I have a confirmable role as long as I’m not roleblocked. If I am roleblocked, it’s essentially confirmed that that Intel or Skitlez are scum. 


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@ILikePie5
So what exactly are you claiming

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@Lunatic
Help me pressure pie and your wish will be granted on two counts. My claim comes after pie period. If pie doesn't claim I don't either.
Then you can continue to live in your fantasy world as much as you need to - 2 Town JOATs with “parallel” roles, whatever the fuck that means
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@ILikePie5
You are not listening to why the hell I waited off the list and keep suggesting this. I told you like 5x and you refuse to rebut these points
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@Lunatic
Why can't there be two JOAT's in this game? Why are you saying that is impossible? JOAT isn't a direct counter claim like cop watch or doc, because it usually encompasses multiple abilities. I think town's power roles were split up between me and supa. Notice danielle's wasn't really a power role. The remaining roles are probably weak version of themselves. 
Where tf have you seen two JOATs where one isn’t scum and one is. It’s unprecedented and frankly a stupid move by Bullish. 
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@BearMan
Can someone brief me on what happened? Y'all are night owls or something
- Intelligence claimed mimic, who copied skittlez and is now a roleblocker.
- Supa claimed to be a suicidal JOAT with a watcher and tracker ability
- I claimed JOAT, currently keeping abilities hidden
- Pie refuses to claim

In a nutshell, supa has dreamer results that one of oro, pie and warren are scum.

Oro wants to lynch intelligence but also scum reads me for some dumb reason, and speed is wagoning him. Pie thinking he has a chance to not be lynched, is taking advantage of that quickly forming wagon as well and bandwagoning it. 
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You are not listening to why the hell I waited off the list and keep suggesting this. I told you like 5x and you refuse to rebut these points
No you haven’t. Wtf does “I had no information at that time mean?” You weren’t even pressuring me or Oro for a character claim based on your results. You just sat on it until it became opportunistic for you. That’s the scummiest shit I’ve ever seen.
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@Vader
You are basing a vote
I'm not voting you

off that fact I am a technological concept and you don't interpret my concept that way.
No, off the fact that you're an ECONOMICAL concept
Tell me why is your thinking correct.
Because you don't relate to technology
Bullish said that there are such things.
He said that there are concepts, but not thing relating to economics

If I were fake claiming, why would I make my role a concept if I knew that most were products.
I'm not scum reading the fact that you're a concept, I'm scum reading the fact that you don't relate to technology

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@Vader
So what exactly are you claiming
My character - Photolithography 
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Everyone is so stuck in their own philosophy and world that we aren't getting anywhere with the lynches in general. This is utterly pointless chat because everyone has their own agenda of what they believe is right and is making bad accusations without listening to every side besides Lunatic and even Chris. Everyone is stuck in their own fantasy of what they believe is right and it's frankly annoying as hell. Town is going to lose this game if we do not get a grip of what is going on in this game. Cmon.

We get a lynch here

We wait on what results come in from the night. I still have my Watcher role, and I have until NP3 to live. I can get another investigative role if a Doc, JK, or BP comes in NP3. We will have much more clarity on what goes on.