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@Vader

I think this is for balance, and it makes sense there is two considering my roles and how Lunatic said their opposite. I have to believe Luna based on game mechanic.

You don’t even know what opposite means. Let me put it this way, give us a definition of an opposite ability Lunatic would have.

Game mechanics have precedents for multiple vanillas. Never for multiple JOATs unless they’re opposite affiliations.

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@Vader

I don't think warren is town based on game mechanics. He's obviously the default if the results do not add up. I scumread Speed's behavior in general

So Warren is also in your scum pile? You literally just said he was town

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@oromagi

TOWN needs your character claims now.

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@oromagi

I've changed my mind about this. I think it is 2 scum + TP intel who has now recruited skittlez

I think I said this earlier in the DP. Or I’m just getting deja vu

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Still no claim from pie. Guess he gets to drag this out.

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@Vader

I have more of a sus on Pie than you, otherwise I'd be voting you

If you actually turn on me here I have officially given up hope that town has a chance to win here lol. Because that is ridiculous

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@Bullish

Vote Counter?

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@ILikePie5

You didn't say anything until speed said his read. Seems oppertunistic. you were also on that dreamer list if I recall... HMMM
Nice OMGUS

Nice evasion of a claim all day phase.

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@oromagi

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Whose pissed? Not me.

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I mean a full role claim
NO. FVCK that. You are retarded ..... Fvck that fvcking noise.

I thought it was hilarious that I was being asked for a claim before pie lol.

I am the cloud. There;s not really a tangible link from my character to my role, or at least that makes sense to me. Advantages of the cloud include flexibility and easy load balancing

Let's remember Bullish said:
roles ARE related to characters, and there IS a theme split.....

I don't give fake claims to the mafia directly, however they may receive hints and help with fake claims,

You are claiming sufficient INFORMATIONAL roles to make a COP unnecessary that is related to... flexibility?

Take it up with bullish, not me. I said there wasn't a tangible link, if bullish is claiming all roles have tangible links, you can just cry about it in the endgame when you lose the game because you attached onto something so dumb.

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So my vote is on scum. Town seems kind of retarded this game, so if you guys aren't lynching pie or at the very laest pressing for his claim, there's nothing much more I can do.

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I'm willing to believe that Pie can confirm himself. Can we all pressure Lunatic?

I think it's him AND Supa, but even if you only think it's one, it's more likely to be Luna because he claimed after and is withholding his role, and claimed that there was no tangible link between his character and role. My character and role have a strong connection, which is all the more evidence against him

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@Lunatic

I'll bet a sugar cookie that you're a Spy

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And Supa's character literally has nothing to do with technology

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Nah speed. I'm not claiming for any reason if pie doesn't claim first. If you think you can lead a mislynch on me go ahead.

You went from being okay with pressuring pie to complete 180 in no time at all. Town paranoia will be the death of us. You really think I got scum twice in a row? You really think I would CC a JOAT and purposefully give a weak justification? You dont think I'm capable of fake claimimg as scum? You literally jave no reason to pressure me.

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@oromagi

I'm gaming headphones

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@Lunatic

Nah speed. I'm not claiming for any reason if pie doesn't claim first. If you think you can lead a mislynch on me go ahead.

Ok, have fun being dead

You went from being okay with pressuring pie to complete 180 in no time at all.

Because he can confirm himself, you can't lol

Town paranoia will be the death of us. You really think I got scum twice in a row?

Gambler's fallacy

You really think I would CC a JOAT and purposefully give a weak justification?

Yes, you've done crazier things lol

You dont think I'm capable of fake claimimg as scum? You literally jave no reason to pressure me.

Of course you are, but you like to gambit. You've literally told me that

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@Speedrace

My role is just a string of text that can convert one thing to another, and you are a gaming headphones? I guess there is no theme split. It is too wide to be considered anything at all.

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@Intelligence_06

Bullish confirmed that there is

My role is just a string of text that can convert one thing to another

Is that all that your pm justification says?

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@Speedrace

No. Well my role is deepfake, which is just an Ai program. That is just what deepfake is, not my entire role lol

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@Speedrace

Ok, have fun being dead

Have fun losing the game because of your pride.

Question: How does me claiming my abilities help you determine anything? It's not gonna suddenly make my justification make more sense. If you think my role not having a sensible justification means I am scum, you are going to try and lynch me regardless.

Because he can confirm himself, you can't lol

Who said I can't confirm myself? Also you are just taking his word that he can. Why won't you take mine that I can as well? Of course it relies on me not being killed or blocked and sucessfully targeting someone.

Gambler's fallacy

Your entire argument that I am scum is based on WIFOM that I am pulling a gambit with supa lol. Don't talk to me about fallacies.

Yes, you've done crazier things lol

Any gambit I've pulled as scum at least makes sense though lol.

Of course you are, but you like to gambit. You've literally told me that

You have no reason to think this is a gambit, you are just writing it off as one for no reason. If you are town and you suspect me because I've "pulled gambits before" then you can literally spin that argument in any game I play in. Statistcally I am going to be town too, you can't write that off.

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@Lunatic

Have fun losing the game because of your pride.

Question: How does me claiming my abilities help you determine anything? It's not gonna suddenly make my justification make more sense. If you think my role not having a sensible justification means I am scum, you are going to try and lynch me regardless.

I think you're scum specifically because you're not claiming

Who said I can't confirm myself? Also you are just taking his word that he can. Why won't you take mine that I can as well? Of course it relies on me not being killed or blocked and sucessfully targeting someone.

Because you're being scummier. And if he can't then we'll just lynch him next DP

Your entire argument that I am scum is based on WIFOM that I am pulling a gambit with supa lol. Don't talk to me about fallacies.

And that you're withholding your claim, the only thing that would convince me that you + Supa are telling the truth, and the fact that you've pulled gambits before, and the fact that you say you have no tangible justification going against what the mod said. Almost like what you just said is a fallacy...

Any gambit I've pulled as scum at least makes sense though lol.

And this one doesn't? You claim results like Warren and Press did in my game and win because of them

You have no reason to think this is a gambit, you are just writing it off as one for no reason. If you are town and you suspect me because I've "pulled gambits before" then you can literally spin that argument in any game I play in. Statistcally I am going to be town too, you can't write that off.

But for the reasons stated above, I have good reason to suspect you

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@Intelligence_06

No. Well my role is deepfake, which is just an Ai program. That is just what deepfake is, not my entire role lol

Bruh I know that. Your PM has three parts: Your character, your role, and your role JUSTIFICATION. The justification explains why your character is your role. For example, skittlez's justification was: " i protect yo privacy by securely connecting you to the VPN provider, who then interfaces with a internet or the internet for u. im also pretty used in corporate environments so employees can access the company network safetly."

Please go to your PM and tell me what your justification is as close as you can without being modkilled

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@Speedrace

I think you're scum specifically because you're not claiming

I claimed that I am a JOAT. You dont need to know my abilities. You either believe me or you don't, my claim isn't gonna make that difference. The reason I am not claiming is because I expect one of my abilities might counter claim pie and that is why he won't claim. I didn't even have to claim there was no pressure or scum read on me prior to claiming. I literally only did because supa also claimes JOAT and I don't want it coming back later that I didn't CC.

Because you're being scummier. And if he can't then we'll just lynch him next DP

You scum read him esrlier but now your letting him off the hook because you wanna be a stubborn mule. Awesome.

And that you're withholding your claim, the only thing that would convince me that you + Supa are telling the truth, and the fact that you've pulled gambits before, and the fact that you say you have no tangible justification going against what the mod said. Almost like what you just said is a fallacy...

There's no good reason to doubt me or supa. Also you are willfully ignoring results.

And this one doesn't? You claim results like Warren and Press did in my game and win because of them

More evidence that me claiming my abilities is pointless since you won't believe any results from me anyway.

But for the reasons stated above, I have good reason to suspect you

The only reason is you have a feeling I am pulling some gambit. Thats a horrible reason. By your logic I can just never be town with a power role and if I ever claim to be one you will just not believe me. Whats even sillier about that is I didn't evek gambit in the last game I was scum. I was super patient and coservative and chose the easiest mislynches and calculated all my kills. You modded that game and saw me play and now you are going with "he's Yolo gambitting".

Face it, you've already made up your mind not to believe me. This is an ego thing now. So if you want to lead a mislynch because of a bruised ego go right ahead.

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@Lunatic

Still no claim from pie. Guess he gets to drag this out.

Two town JOATs make no sense. You still haven’t said what “opposite” means.

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@ILikePie5

Nope. Claim first.

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@Lunatic

Nope. Claim first.

I have no reason to. My role is confirmable tomorrow. Yours is a magical fantasy that you refuse to out even when there isn’t a historical precedent of having two Town JOATs.

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