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I see the Democrats as generally the lesser of two evils as far as policies go. The problems I have with both parties is a lack of loyalty to the interests of Americans. The Democrats focus too much on environmental issues and immigrants, particularly illegal ones, all of which is at the expense of common Americans. Republicans also fail to meaningfully address immigration and want too much military spending. (We don't need to protect the whole human race from Russia and China, or whoever) There's this whole libertarian individualist ideology that I largely see as having gained traction as a form of dog whistle racism. People don't want to share with minorities who they don't identify with, but you can't have a racist policy, so you just end up having this idea where nobody shares anything with anybody and anything communal is disfavored. Big kicker for me though is Republicans being too loyal to the interests of the very rich.
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 Big kicker for me though is Republicans being too loyal to the interests of the very rich.

So being moderately loyal to the very rich like the establishment Democrats are is okay?
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So being moderately loyal to the very rich like the establishment Democrats are is okay?
Every straw man begins with "so".
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He’s a socialist. Nuf said

You assume all Socialists are Democrats?
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Sadly, establishment Democrats have more power than a strawman atm, and have been for more than our lifetimes.

You really don't think the people actually selected Joe Biden, Do you?
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You assume all Socialists are Democrats?

there are plenty of RINOS that believe in big government socialism.
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Um, not sure what you mean. He was elected twice to VP. Um the election hasn't happened yet so...
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The nomination of Biden was a disappointment. Sander's popularity was low with black voters. It's the same reason Sanders didn't get nominated in 2016. The early states in the 2020 primary didn't have many black voters in them. So, it gave the appearance that Sanders was winning and then things suddenly turned the other way, but in reality Sanders was doomed from the start. It didn't surprise me. I was expecting it.
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If the establishment elites wanted Sanders, they would have pulled the strings to make it happen.
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That may be. Nonetheless, Biden's nomination was proper according to the vote.
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Yes, the establishment made that happen. All proper like.
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Nomiki Konst, who was a surrogate for Sanders' 2016 campaign, said in a text message exchange with NBC News that the Democratic Party risks alienating many of the voters it will need come November if it picks a nominee by pooling the delegates of a series of candidates behind one rival to Sanders and then turns to a group of party leaders known as superdelegates at the convention in Milwaukee this summer to help nominate Biden.

"If the establishment's entire strategy is dependent on backroom deals with superdelegates, I'm afraid we are in for another four years of Trump and potentially in danger of losing any democratic values left in this country," she said. "I believe the only way we can defeat Trump is by supporting the candidate that has a well-organized, energized, multiracial, multigenerational working-class movement on the ground."
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Well, that was 2016. Yeah, there was a lot of BS going on in 2016, but at the end of the day Clinton got 4+ million more votes than Sanders, and in 2020 the lead over Sanders was ~9 million. So, whatever shenanigans were going on didn't seem to be dispositive.
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You assume all Socialists are Democrats?
I assume they’re not voting GOP cause Trump is the anti-thesis of socialism. It’s more likely he’s voting for Joe cause the DNC platform is the most like socialism.
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Well, that was 2016. Yeah, there was a lot of BS going on in 2016, but at the end of the day Clinton got 4+ million more votes than Sanders, and in 2020 the lead over Sanders was ~9 million. So, whatever shenanigans were going on didn't seem to be dispositive.
Joe didn’t win cause he was a good candidate. Joe won because the DNC wanted him. Hillary was to an extent a good candidate for Democrats. The DNC pulled some strings to allow Joe to win.
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joe won because he was the consensus candidate, the guy most people liked. yes the DNC convinced the losing moderates to drop out, so they could prevent sanders from winning. but if sanders won, that would only be a testament to the stupid aspects of plurality voting, where the biggest minority wins, not the most popular candidate. 

all this 'the election is rigged' stuff is what stupid people say. yes there were politics involved, but biden was still the most popular candidate and more importantly he got the most votes.

so it's retarded to say the election was rigged. that's what brainwashed people say. 

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Sure, it's never rigged or influenced as long as the DNC elite establishment gets the candidate they approve of.

That's the proper response.
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I assume they’re not voting GOP cause Trump is the anti-thesis of socialism. It’s more likely he’s voting for Joe cause the DNC platform is the most like socialist
More likely, sure. Plenty of socialists aren't voting this year. In addition not all socialists are left wing outside of their socialist views. 
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More likely, sure. Plenty of socialists aren't voting this year. In addition not all socialists are left wing outside of their socialist views. 
Where I’m at, all the socialists are voting for Joe lol
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joe won because he was the consensus candidate, the guy most people liked. yes the DNC convinced the losing moderates to drop out, so they could prevent sanders from winning. but if sanders won, that would only be a testament to the stupid aspects of plurality voting, where the biggest minority wins, not the most popular candidate. 

all this 'the election is rigged' stuff is what stupid people say. yes there were politics involved, but biden was still the most popular candidate and more importantly he got the most votes.

so it's retarded to say the election was rigged. that's what brainwashed people say. 
Biden was not the most popular candidate. He literally came 5th in Iowa and like third in New Hampshire. Pete beat him in both. Joe was on life support till the DNC came over. No one likes Joe. Democrats don’t like Joe. They’re voting for him cause he isn’t Trump.
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Where I’m at, all the socialists are voting for Joe lol
You'll be happy to know that I'm registered to vote in California where it's nigh impossible for my vote to make any difference. That, and my ballot never showed up in the mail. So, I'm probably not voting at all.
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Biden was not the most popular candidate. He literally came 5th in Iowa and like third in New Hampshire. Pete beat him in both. Joe was on life support till the DNC came over. No one likes Joe. Democrats don’t like Joe. They’re voting for him cause he isn’t Trump.
Can you prove it?
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You'll be happy to know that I'm registered to vote in California where it's nigh impossible for my vote to make any difference. That, and my ballot never showed up in the mail. So, I'm probably not voting at all.
Congrats. They probably took your ballot and filled it for you.

Can you prove it?
Sure. Any poll you look at at. 70-80 percent of Trump supporters are voting for Trump cause they like him. That number is 30-45 tops for Joe. The rest are just votes against Joe. The primary system was designed so every candidate has a fair shot at winning. The DNC made a corrupt bargain with the others to drop out just to help Joe cause they knew he alone couldn’t win it like Trump did cause no one likes him.
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I like this one

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There have been various instances of voter fraud already. Obamagate is real whether you like it or not.
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Ah who needs evidence these days anyway? The facts are whatever you want them to be. Lets just make'm up.
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lol, now you know how the game has been played for the past 40 years.
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joe was polling good in future states beyond the first few states. joe fared better with conservatives too. just because he wasn't doing good in the polls early on doesn't prove anything... a poll based on plurality voting and an approval rating are completely different, and i think joe had better approval ratings across all demographics. 
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Yeah, I know how it works. I don't like how it works. Lying has become so normalized. Everyone just expects it now. Accepting the lies and telling them to other people seems to be rewarded, perhaps as a way of advertising loyalty or something. I think false and misleading advertising in our culture has probably contributed to the problem. People are continuously inundated with bullshit. It's our reality, unfortunately. I do a lot of work in debt buying and legal work, and it's like the rules are the opposite. What's rewarded is being a complete jerk, but whatever I do, I cannot lie. No lies is the rule, and this seemed to fit well with my personality anyway, as I was already an asshole pretty much but rejected dishonesty in this aspergery, Holden Caulfield sort of way.