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Even if it's the Bernie Marxists getting cancelled by the DNC elites, the loss of Democracy is a far more disastrous thing, and it shows with the violence and the riots.
I’m not a fan of Bernie Bros, but I sympathize with them. Intervention by the party is inherently undemocratic. They don’t even know if Bernie would’ve lost. Trump was sure to lose remember?
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kasich or rubio or someone like that should run as a third party, just to split the conservative vote. see how you guys like those apples. 
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Alinsky rule #13

13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

Fucking cancel culture is the bane of democracy.
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kasich or rubio or someone like that should run as a third party, just to split the conservative vote. see how you guys like those apples. 
They have the right to. But they’re not idiots. They know their political careers will be over if they do. And we already have Jo Jorgensen taking some GOP support. Banning third parties is anti-thetical to a democracy dude. It’s really not that hard.
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Lincoln and Wilson are some the people who are regarded as good presidents. They only won because there were third parties involved.
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no one is talking about banning third parties. i'm talking about approval rating voting, where the person with the highest approval rating wins, or goes to a run off. this would encourage more people to run, would encourage more third and fourth etc parties.it would discourage radicals, it would better unity the country.  it would better capture the will of the people. it wouldn't allow third parties to stop the most popular person from winning. 
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kasich doesn't want trump to win anyway. pllus i dont think many people probaly including himself thinks he has much of a future in elected politics, given he doesnt tow party lines and such. he'd be a perfect person to show you guys how stupid plurality voting really is. 
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is because stupid people like the above posters think people with low approval ratings should become president, and they wont support changing the system. 
I'm glad you have to resort to insults to try to beef up your point. I compare this point to a balloon. It's big and mighty and easy to pop. 

1) Trump GOP support is around the 40% baseline, Biden's is roughly 26%.

2) You don't understand that the polls were wrong because of silent Trump supports. Like I said, your culture is promoting silence of political views. I should not be discriminated from universities because I identify with conservative values. Your culture is promoting this toxic behavior that is injecting the youth

3) People are not Trump supporters, but are Republicans who fear a Biden presidency. I'm glad you say people above are stupid. You know what I call stupid? Socialism. It's failed in many societies yet people still wanna go back to Socialism and claim social rights. Talk to the millions of dead and starving families who died of it? And you claim we're the party of people. Get a load

4) Your party has done nothing for services for disabled people. Illinois ranks dead fucking last in this stat cheat as a Democratic state. Trump gave $1B dollars in funding for resources, research, and etc. You think the Christian taxpayers should pay for Becky to have her 9th abortion because she got too wild at her party. Have your abortion all you want, but make it privatized, and don't have the taxpayers pay for your clinics. 

5) You wanna talk about the African American community and crime. Clinton supported bills written by Biden to increase incarcerations of black people with non violent crimes. Is that being fair. Tell me how your party has helped African American people in the last 50 years besides manipulating them into thinking the left is right. Trump had the lowest unemployment rate among out of all the presidents, and yes, even your precious hero, Barack Obama did not employ more African Americans.

Your party is built off lies, faulty promises, and silencing the people to have your way. I think you are the fascist ideology here 
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Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.


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no one is talking about banning third parties. i'm talking about approval rating voting, where the person with the highest approval rating wins, or goes to a run off. this would encourage more people to run, would encourage more third and fourth etc parties.it would discourage radicals, it would better unity the country.  it would better capture the will of the people. it wouldn't allow third parties to stop the most popular person from winning. 
No. Why can’t you just let the people vote. Do you think Americans are morons. Why should the person with the highest approval rating win? You c any even accurately gauge that because a sample of 1000 isn’t even necessarily representative of the nation. It’s ignorant. The Constitution is very clear about the requirement to run for President and how the President wins. Your requirement is arbitrary and is fair to people who are willing to kiss peoples asses
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approval ratings can be determined with a vote, same as any other system, at a voting booth. i dont think people are stupid. i think the plurality voting is stupid. the process is stupid, because it, and not the candidates or the people, chooses the winner oftentimes. 

so you're cool with kasich running and stealing votes from trump? you're cool with the libertarian is is already running getting a better shot at winning by getting on the debate stage and such? you're cool with a bunch of conservatives running and making it so none of them can win, simply because of the process? 
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approval ratings can be determined with a vote, same as any other system, at a voting booth. i dont think people are stupid. i think the plurality voting is stupid. the process is stupid, because it, and not the candidates or the people, chooses the winner oftentimes. 
Why is that so wrong? Was Lincoln a bad President? Was Wilson a bad President? If people are willing to put their own heads out there and want to risk their political careers, that’s their prerogative. What you’re talking about my friend is code for popular vote which in itself is a disaster. Third parties are an essential part of democracy whether you like it or not. 

so you're cool with kasich running and stealing votes from trump? you're cool with the libertarian is is already running getting a better shot at winning by getting on the debate stage and such? you're cool with a bunch of conservatives running and making it so none of them can win, simply because of the process?
I don’t have to like it for it to be democratic. Sure my party will suffer. That’s fine with me as long as democracy is upheld. If the GOP did what the DNC did to Bernie to Trump I would be mad. Democracy is inherently good whether you like it or not. Me preferring a certain outcome is my personal opinion but my core belief is that it is democratic. You on the other hand want to eliminate an essential part of democracy so it benefits your party.