BAMF Mafia - Day Phase 1

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What post is that from?
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So was the rest of the poem chopped liver?
Only SCUM would ask, especially immediately after I my generous concession

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Only SCUM would ask, especially immediately after I my generous concession
There are some pretty odd parts of the poem that seem like you could have been setting up multiple character claims. Can you explain the god bless you part or is it just random?
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Ohhh I was gonna say that I think it's weird that you claimed outright
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@oromagi
Only SCUM would ask, especially immediately after my generous concession
There are some pretty odd parts of the poem that seem like you could have been setting up multiple character claims. Can you explain the god bless you part or is it just random?
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Perhaps the split is animated characters vs. live action?

Does anybody else want to claim an animated character?
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Danielle - 1/5 - skittlez
Oro - 1/5 - Lunatic
Lunatic - 1/5 - oro
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Fair enough, that's a good point. Although i can't remember any character that SLJ voice acted besides Lunatic
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besides Lunatic's character*
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Oro - 1/5 - Lunatic
Lunatic - 2/5 - oro, speed

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 Although i can't remember any character that SLJ voice acted besides Lunatic
funny u ask cuz i was wondering the same thing so i found a list of every role SLJ has been in 

to answer ur question tho yeah there's quite a bit 
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For the love of god, please do something.

VTL Danielle
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why do yall scumread lunatic? 
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besides Lunatic's character*


afro samurai (about which I know nothing)
whiplash@Turbo (about which I know nothing)
frank tenpenny (not from a movie but from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas)
mace windu, of course although that's covered

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I'll explain my conspiracy theory about Oro, and why I think his soft claims are not pro-town in every case.

First of all I only buy his claim like 30%. Since I first brought up the issue with his post 6, he responded to it an hour ago. He's had an hour to come up with something that fits better if he assumed I guessed what he was initially trying to claim, so the length of time it took him to respond doesn't put my mind at ease, though is claim is clever nonetheless if he is scum so props for that. The minus the U party in FNKY seems like a stretch though.

I think oro had set himself up with 2 fake claims initially that didn't work out for him as information started to develop now, and if he actually planned the third Nick Fury one with the other 2, then oro is big brained af. 

Conspiracy claim #1: He was planning on claiming Arnold from Jurrassic Park. The "god bless you" part of his poem in post 6 is a pretty big line from Jurrassic park after a dinosaur sneezes on the little boys sister. It's a line that stands out because most people say "Bless you" instead of "God bless you", so the fact that he puts in the unccomon "God" before it, seems like he was qouting the movie to later use this as a fake claim. However Skittlez posted his claim of being arnold like 20-30 seconds before he said this, so obviously if skittlez is town then oro figured out quickly he couldn't use this claim. Another possibility I was considering was that skittlez is scum with oro and mafia were given arnold as a fake claim, and maybe skittlez jumped the gun and used the claim without oro's permission at almost the same time. This is a weaker theory as it relies on a mishap in the PM (but skittlez is new and not particularly good at scum so I can see it being plausible). Oro seemed to also prepare a secondary fake claim with post 6 though in the case if this advent.

Conspiracy claim #2: "What would jesus do" part seems pretty indicative of him setting up a claim for being Jules Winnifield from Pulp Fiction, who is a religious nut. This character not being in the game would be appaling, since "BAMF" literally is on his wallet in the iconic restaurant scene in the end. It's also drafter's profile picture. This is a much riskier claim, but if mafia know that SLJ is theme, and they would since there is two scum and they can look to each others claims to verify assuming they weren't told for some reason(another reason I think it's weird speed and oro don't think mafia would have known the theme). This looked like a secondary set up for claiming what is probably his actual character in case it is revealed that it isn't a good guys vs bad guys theme. The thing that makes this theory stronger is that oro was just asking speeds opinion on if this is a good guy vs bad guy theme, which means he discarded this option as a potential fake claim after he figured out that everyone who has claimed so far, has claimed someone who is "good". 

Behavioral read #3: Decrypting Intelligence's claim served no town purpose, and I'm not entirely sure he did it on purpose. He posted Intelligence's claim in a list, and then afterwards in future lists removed it as if he was town pretending to hope mafia didn't catch it or somthing (though he recently put it back on his list a few minutes ago). I think it was probably an accident that he posted that, that he was keeping an info list for his mafia partner or a personal one with town info on it. That said, if he was town and knew intelligence's claim, there was no reason for him to out him as mace windu. This was another claim he could add to his good guys vs bad guys theme deferential though, and this combined with crocs claim probably is what ultimately encouraged him away from claiming conspiracy claim #2. 

It's possible that he also set up a third claim with the Nick Fury claim as well, and if he did that, props for being big brained af. It was big brained regardless for him coming up with that, though the fact that it took an hour makes it more believable that he could have just conjured that up as well.

I think oro is still likely scum, but regardless these "hints" are a disservice to town, and if he's scum he's obviously going to do these as well in a way that will set him up with fake claims, as it would be sus for him to stray from this behavior when he does it every game.
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 It's a line that stands out because most people say "Bless you" instead of "God bless you", so the fact that he puts in the unccomon "God" before it, seems like he was qouting the movie to later use this as a fake claim.
Here is an example of me using "god bless you" last month

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Because scum knowing would require one flip and a townie to reveal it or two flips. And you wouldn't use the logic to lynch someone because this whole scenario assumes the theme wasn't revealed yet lol
You suggested the ideal situation would be for this information to come out dp2 post flip though, so obviously a flaw in the logic if we used it dp1 to lynch scum lol.

I never said Supa was dumb bruh. And I told him to look up the character to see if he had a moment of recognition, you know, like a townie would do? Instead of just lynching someone without investigating? I had to look up Ray Arnold to know he was SLJ so why would I not give Supa that same benefit of the doubt?
Post 35 and 37 heavily imply that you are shaming him for his not knowing (basically calling him dumb), right after you suggested it was scummy of him not to know the theme in post 22 lol. 

Bruh what lie. I said "I dropped it because he didn't research his character." The fact that I had to TELL him to research his character means that he didn't research it in the first place, so where is the lie lol. I didn't shame him for researching, I shamed him for blatantly saying it out loud bruh.
If you are speling it out for him that way, do you think mafia is also too dumb to not figure it out? I guess in some apeball scenario where croc and skittlez are scum maybe that makes sense...

It's scummy if they looked at their character. Supa literally didn't know who acted Ray Arnold, am I supposed to just call him media illiterate?
Spelling out for him that he has to research the actor kinda gives it away, dont ya think? You following it up with "Well I guess supa is scum" and then dismissing it makes no sense to me.

I already said it would take town revealing the claim for that to happen.
Which means you were originally saying you thought it would be ideal to lynch someone before they could claim which makes even less sense if your town. lol

How is it hard to know? Oro is the most socially knowledgeable out of everyone here, of course he's gonna instantly put two and two together. You're literally the one saying town shouldn't be lazy and then when we're not, it's scummy? Bruh

Don't know what you you mean with the lazy part, but I find it ironic that you town read oro for being knowledgable, and oro thinks you town read him for being bad at scum.
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Here is an example of me using "god bless you" last month


It's not impossible for people to use the uncommon "god" predeccessing, but it doesn't change the fact that it is a convienent and pretty big line in a  Samuel L Jackson starred movie. Also the line is just pretty odd in general in your poem regardless, especially if you are just using the first and second line.
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Thought on oro/speedrace?
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"What would jesus do" part seems pretty indicative of him setting up a claim for being Jules Winnifield from Pulp Fiction, who is a religious nut. This character not being in the game would be appaling, since "BAMF" literally is on his wallet in the iconic restaurant scene in the end. It's also drafter's profile picture.
My early claims need to be convincing so they try to be way more on the nose than  WWJD=religious guy.  But now that you bring up I should point out that I used two Jules quotes early on when we were breadcrumbing SLJ

  • big brain on Brett and
  • say what again
Those were not BCs and I would not have used them to bc Jules since that would be way too obvious for my style of play.  Because I put those obv quotes out there, the one character you can be confident I would not claim is that one.
I agree that Jules is almost certainly in the game.
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im working on getting caught up rn 
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ill give my reads sometime later when i get back home 
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My early claims need to be convincing so they try to be way more on the nose than  WWJD=religious guy.  But now that you bring up I should point out that I used two Jules quotes early on when we were breadcrumbing SLJ

  • big brain on Brett and
  • say what again
Those were not BCs and I would not have used them to bc Jules since that would be way too obvious for my style of play.  Because I put those obv quotes out there, the one character you can be confident I would not claim is that one.
I agree that Jules is almost certainly in the game.

What is the exact purpose of you qouting Jules then? Just getting in spirit of the game? I mean you are literally telling me these are qoutes, which I might not have figured out, but you could be telling me this in case I did figure out that you were potentially bread crumbing, and you are trying to bite the argument in the butt. 
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Decrypting Intelligence's claim served no town purpose, and I'm not entirely sure he did it on purpose.
I put it  in there because I was pleased with figuring it out and showing off.  After a minute, I thought about somebody other than myself for a second and realized that there was no value to outing Intel and apologized.   Now it seems like the cat's out the bag so might as well keep it up.


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What is the exact purpose of you qouting Jules then? Just getting in spirit of the game? I mean you are literally telling me these are qoutes, which I might not have figured out, but you could be telling me this in case I did figure out that you were potentially bread crumbing, and you are trying to bite the argument in the butt. 
wifom.  Dudz had just made the SLJ connection so a couple of iconic SLJ quotes seemed appropriate.  

So... you think I might be SCUM who breadcrumbed both Jules and Nick Fury (probably SLJ's two biggest roles) as fake claims in the sixth post of the game?  
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Perhaps the split is animated characters vs. live action?

Does anybody else want to claim an animated character

You dropped your good guy vs bad guy theory pretty quick in the name of OMGUS lol
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afro samurai (about which I know nothing)
whiplash@Turbo (about which I know nothing)
frank tenpenny (not from a movie but from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas)
mace windu, of course although that's covered
Ohhh like Mace from the Clone Wars series? Maybe but I feel like it would be referring to the real character and not the animation but who knows
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You dropped your good guy vs bad guy theory pretty quick in the name of OMGUS lol

I haven't dropped good guy vs. bad guy or badass vs non-badass.

All 3 splits seem possible at least.