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@Lunatic
Lol I'm just watching the White Sox and checked on the DP and saw poems. I'd probably come up with something better if I tried
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Oops didn't realize I needed to rhyme
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Mharman (2/7) - TNB, Grey
Oromagi (1/7) - SA
Croc (1/7) - Supa

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I think he is lying and he is actually a role cop
Why?
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FYI I still think Croc is town
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@oromagi
hold up
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I once loved a girl named Amy
Her scent was enticing, as fresh as a daisy
Her eyes shined blue, like the sky midday
I'd wish to travel the word with her and go astray
I had vision of love that surrounded my brain
So deluded in thought, I lost it in vain
As I poured my heart into a letter at night
I cried at response, as my sight wasn't
Oh Amy, Oh Amy, I wish I could amaze
But alas you left me just writing praise
I wish I could see your pearly white teeth
But it's burning away, like a lit fire on a leaf
And I now I must bid my dreams goodbye
Oh Amy, Oh Amy, the night is mine to cry
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It was always Amy K.

Sorry just had to say it
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1. A 1x role could be used as a way for a tracker to not go ahead and track them in the night.
2. A Voyeuar is such an uncommon role. Pie uses common roles
3. His justification is weak
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If I am wrong about this I'll take the blame
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Plus his behavior and lurking is anti town as hell. His behavior has been of negative utility to town. He is the best target for the lynch
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If I am wrong about this I'll take the blame
From anyone other than supa this would be scummy, but I think it makes supa look pretty town lol.
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I am not opposed to lynching croc again for the earlier reasons, and because speed makes a good point about his results being potentially worse for town (though he town reads croc). Croc's role isn't useful to town, and frankly makes more sense as a scum role.
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WHY CROC LYNCH

If there are no major scumtells, lynching useless town members is the best thing we can do for information gathering and for reducing deadweight. 

If we  define "Useless" as a member that does not contribute or have a useful role, Croc is the only one to fit the bill.

Croc has contributed less than nothing and Croc's role is useless to the town... but at the same time, he is potentially helpful to the mafia. 

Supa makes additional points:
1. A 1x role could be used as a way for a tracker to not go ahead and track them in the night.
2. A Voyeuar is such an uncommon role. Pie uses common roles
3. His justification is weak
POTENTIAL OUTCOMES:

a. CROC IS TOWN AND WAS NOT LYING ABOUT ROLE

Town has lost virtually nothing and narrowed down potential suspects.

b. CROC IS TOWN AND LIED ABOUT ROLE

Lynch all Liars.

c. CROC IS MAFIA

Speaks for itself. 

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Croc (2/7) - Supa, MisterChris
Mharman (2/7) - TNB, Grey
Oromagi (1/7) - SA

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The only part I disagree with is the part you qouted supas point about pie not using unusual roles. In Narcos mafia he had: actor, aesthetic, mailman and soldier. These are roles I feel aren't "commonly seen".
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@Lunatic
Oh. Well I can't comment all that much, I just took Supa's word for it cuz I'm a noob
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I once loved a girl named Amy
I got friendzoned
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@oromagi
WHERE DID OROMAGI GET THE SECOND CONFEDERATE FROM
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Maybe. I'll consider it.
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@Mharman
Sounds good. I'm interested to hear what Oro has to say
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I am not opposed to lynching croc again for the earlier reasons, and because speed makes a good point about his results being potentially worse for town (though he town reads croc). Croc's role isn't useful to town, and frankly makes more sense as a scum role.
I disagree, all giving that to mafia would do is possibly tell them that some role exists, but not who it is, and only once lol. I really doubt this is a mafia claiming his real role
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@Speedrace
I disagree, all giving that to mafia would do is possibly tell them that some role exists,
Knowing which roles are in the game is a huge benefit for mafia.

but not who it is, and only once lol. I really doubt this is a mafia claiming his real role
Why? Gut?
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Those are rare, but I think it’s much rather than those. Plus this role really isn’t an unique role, it’s a shittier tracker
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Knowing which roles are in the game is a huge benefit for mafia.
Huge is a gross overstatement. It's really not lol. Mafia goes "oh there's a doctor in the game" So? It's not like they know who the doctor is so they can kill them. Voyeur only works on visiting roles, then only ones visiting your target, and it's only 1x. Completely useless to Mafia. If this is a role madness game then it makes sense has a filler power role but Pie would be out of his mind to give this to mafia
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Why? Gut?
All the reasons above
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Huge is a gross overstatement. It's really not lol. Mafia goes "oh there's a doctor in the game" So? It's not like they know who the doctor is so they can kill them. Voyeur only works on visiting roles, then only ones visiting your target, and it's only 1x. Completely useless to Mafia. If this is a role madness game then it makes sense has a filler power role but Pie would be out of his mind to give this to mafia
I don't know that it's a "gross" overstatement, maybe a slight overstatement. But if I am scum I would like to know what I am up against, to know which roles to be on the lookout for. I don't think it;s useless to mafia at all, but definitely to town. 
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@Speedrace
Why? Gut?
All the reasons above

That doesn't explain why you would town read him. You basically said his role is useless to both sides. How does that make him town?
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@Lunatic
That doesn't explain why you would town read him. You basically said his role is useless to both sides. How does that make him town?
Because I don't think Pie would give that role to scum and I don't think he's fake claiming
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I guess what MisterChris is saying is that all potential outcomes are beneficial. I agree with this as Voyeur seems like one of the weakest watching roles, and the fact that he's only 1x won't benefit town at all.


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