Civil War Generals Mafia DP1

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@Crocodile
That's actually a pretty good investigative role. Now that I know what it is, I'm surprised it isn't more common.
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ha i was post 420 guys funny number
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any thoughts on who is mafia
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@Crocodile
So you are an investigative?
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I'm more confident in a Croc lynch after that claim
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I'm rather doubting that Croc is scum and actually did the research to come up with that role. If he is scum, I suppose one of his partners might have done it. Even so, voyeur seems like a pretty obscure claim for even an experienced player to come up with.
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@SirAnonymous
I have a feeling it is looking at game mechanics and such. 
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@TNBinc
Not really. I wish I did have some ideas, but I don't at the moment.
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@Vader
I have a feeling it is looking at game mechanics and such. 
That's definitely possible.
I'm more confident in a Croc lynch after that claim
Why is that?
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@SirAnonymous
I look at Pie's games and I see his past roles. None of the roles provided were as that unique as Voyeur, it is usually a Visitor or Tracker. To have that variant and wait that long to think of a claim is weird. I also think Voyeur is a scum claim. He can simply claim that he saw that a kill happened but doesn't know who it was that killed him. It's a role designed for scum to fake their way out of


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@Vader
I look at Pie's games and I see his past roles. None of the roles provided were as that unique as Voyeur, it is usually a Visitor or Tracker.
I don't find that suspicious.
To have that variant and wait that long to think of a claim is weird.
I can't figure out what this means. Could you elaborate?
I also think Voyeur is a scum claim. He can simply claim that he saw that a kill happened but doesn't know who it was that killed him. It's a role designed for scum to fake their way out of
Now that you mention it, it would be a convenient role to fake claim. However, that does not mean that it actually is a fake claim. If Croc does turn out to be scum, then there has to be at least one experienced player on the scum team who researched the role.
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Let's suppose for a moment that Croc is scum. I doubt he would come up with that claim on his own. However, his partners would probably know that town would think that and might deliberately come up with an obscure fake claim for him to try to get town cred.

If Croc is town, then he hasn't done anything that can't be explained by sheer laziness.

I don't know. He's still null for me. He is also still highly inactive.
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@Vader
Yeah I disagree with Oro's theory, too. People could just be paraphrasing from the top of their head and get called scum.
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@SirAnonymous
I meant role, not variant.
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@Vader
I meant role, not variant
I guessed that. I was more referring to the part about, "wait that long to think of a claim is weird."

Also, I looked up voyeur on mafiascum. Apparently it can be a mafia role as well as a town role, although it didn't say which is more common.
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@SirAnonymous
Yea that's true. He could be a Lookout or something. I highly doubt he is town after the claim
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He also said he's a 1x voyeur. If it's a fake claim, it's really goofy. I just can't see a scum chat that says, 
A: Let's tell him to claim voyeur. No one will think that Croc would fake claim something that obscure.
B: Too normal. Let's tell him to claim 1x voyeur.
I'm more inclined to think he's town at this point, though not by a lot.
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What are your opinions on Croc's claim?
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@SirAnonymous
He also said he's a 1x voyeur. If it's a fake claim, it's really goofy. I just can't see a scum chat that says, 
Yea but that's so weird to me as well. That role isn't even that powerful to have him have that variant. Also Pie doesn't give variants in his games at all, so it's extremely fisht as well

A: Let's tell him to claim voyeur. No one will think that Croc would fake claim something that obscure.
B: Too normal. Let's tell him to claim 1x voyeur.
Well if he claims it's a 1x and gets tracked NP1 and shows himself visiting, he can lure off any investigative  role to track him if he claims a 1x


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I can't make up my mind on Croc. It's such a bizarre claim. I can't imagine a mod making a weak investigative role 1x, nor can I imagine any scum that would claim a weak investigative role that was only 1x.
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@SirAnonymous
No pie also told me my role is "For this reason, you are the 1x _____" (I don't know if I am allowed to say my role out loud)
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@TNBinc
You are allowed to, but please don't. Claiming this early is a really bad idea unless you're under a lot of pressure. Also, there are a limited number of roles that are normally 1x, so you just gave away a lot of info. Also, don't copy-paste your PM if you do claim.
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What he said. Was about to say the same thing but my connection got shotty mid post
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If Croc was mafia, he wouldn't claim something so outrageous as he probably doesn't know the role (It might be that mafia decided to play it risky, but I don't think so). Croc also wouldn't be nearly as inactive.
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@SirAnonymous
oops i did not know that.
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am i allowed to delete posts?
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No it is against the rules
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ok I'm looking through the posts
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@TNBinc
The rule is that you cannot copy and paste you role PM, but you may paraphrase it and claim your role.