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@Lunatic
No, but why rush a lynch now when we can discuss more. I wanted to bring other thoughts and perspectives. I do recall you saying bandwagons are becoming more and more lazy on DART. I do think Croc is the best lynch, I just don't feel confident that he's scum yet, but like I said, you are convincing me otherwise. I'm not ready to hammer
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All this is to say I kind of agree with you that for all we know the PM structure mess up was laziness. However it also works out the other way, he could have equally been too lazy as scum to read the previous claims of how the structure went, and only read t hat first post from oro and made a guess. Or didn't understand the implications of it.
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Croc (5/7) - Greyparrot, That1User, Oromagi, TNBinc, Lunatic

Please correct me if I’m wrong

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@Vader
No, but why rush a lynch now when we can discuss more. I wanted to bring other thoughts and perspectives. I do recall you saying bandwagons are becoming more and more lazy on DART. I do think Croc is the best lynch, I just don't feel confident that he's scum yet, but like I said, you are convincing me otherwise. I'm not ready to hammer
No one is rushing the lynch or encouraging a hammer. We have plenty of time to discuss. The day phase is currently stalled because we are waiting on croc to comply
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Exactly, but with a 5/7 hammer, it is fairly possible that 2 scum hammer, hence why I say we should hold off on that much lynch pressure til he comes on. 
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That makes sense.

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Exactly, but with a 5/7 hammer, it is fairly possible that 2 scum hammer, hence why I say we should hold off on that much lynch pressure til he comes on. 
Same thing I said to chris here: if someone quick hammers that only tells us who to lynch tomorrow, I don't see the problem. Its been said multiple times that we need a role claim first so if someone hammers first then its a win because we know who to lynch tomorrow.
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I don't know if Croc is actually scum or not. He hasn't posted anything that gives me any indication either way. The reason I'd be fine with his lynch is because he really hasn't posted anything, period. The same goes for Mharman. It's not scummy, but it's also useless. I would prefer to lynch scum than inactives, but I don't have any scum reads yet. Anyway, those are some of my somewhat rambling thoughts on the game.
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More activity from you two would be greatly appreciated.
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Fair point, I still am not fond with a 5/7 even if we narrow down the scum cuz of quick lynch, but I guess wouldn't be opposed
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Also Croc's behavior is anti town AF, so I'm much leaning toward Croc

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Croc (5/7) - Greyparrot, That1User, Oromagi, TNBinc, Lunatic

Please correct me if I’m wrong

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day phase is stalled waiting for you. Please full claim.
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@GP

I am hated townie because I was responsible for ordering Pickett's charge.

But that's the opposite of the truth.  

"For years after the war Longstreet's reputation suffered and was blamed for the failed attack even though Lee ordered the advance after Longstreet's repeated advice to cancel the attack."

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The trouble with just quick lynching croc is he might not warn us if he's something useful like COP
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DId you give side and wincon yet?
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The trouble with just quick lynching croc is he might not warn us if he's something useful like COP
We aren't trying to quick lynch him, it's been stated several times that anyone who tries to hammer will be suspected. We are waiting for him to get on and claim.
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TOWN
C3.Oromagi c3
U3.SirAnonymous
U3.MisterChris  
U3. SupaDudz 
U3. BearMan 
UX.TNBinc  
XX.Lunatic  
C3. Speedrace  
CX.. Greyparrot      James Longstreet              VANILLA (HATED)
CX. That1User           
C3. Mharman               
CX. Croc                        
SCUM

UVC



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@Lunatic
Roger that.  SIx union, six rebs

TOWN
C3.Oromagi 
U3.SirAnonymous
U3.MisterChris  
U3. SupaDudz 
U3. BearMan 
UX.TNBinc  
U3.Lunatic  
C3. Speedrace  
CX.. Greyparrot      James Longstreet              VANILLA (HATED)
CX. That1User           
C3. Mharman               
CX. Croc                        
SCUM

UVC


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i have you down for no wincon 
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Longstreet is hated town.

Although the assault is known to popular history as Pickett's Charge, overall command was given to James Longstreet, and Pickett was one of his divisional commanders. Lee did tell Longstreet that Pickett's fresh division should lead the assault, so the name is appropriate, although some recent historians have used the name Pickett–Pettigrew–Trimble Assault (or, less frequently, Longstreet's Assault) to more fairly distribute the credit (or blame). 

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Although the assault is known to popular history as Pickett's Charge, overall command was given to James Longstreet, and Pickett was one of his divisional commanders. Lee did tell Longstreet that Pickett's fresh division should lead the assault, so the name is appropriate, although some recent historians have used the name Pickett–Pettigrew–Trimble Assault (or, less frequently, Longstreet's Assault) to more fairly distribute the credit (or blame). 
I'd agree that Longstreet's Assault is a more accurate name for the attack than Pickett's Charge but Longstreet bears no more responsibility for the attack than Pickett.  Longstreet didn't attend the staff meeting the night before and Lee rode out the morning of Jul 3 to find him planning an new assault on Big Round Top (which Longstreet did not know were now heavily reinforced).  This messed up Lee's plan so Lee changed it up and ordered a mass attack on the center.  Longstreet correctly warned Lee that this was a big mistake but Lee insisted. 

Lee would agree with historians that he ordered the attack, not Longstreet.

As soldiers straggled back to the Confederate lines along Seminary Ridge, Lee feared a Union counteroffensive and tried to rally his center, telling returning soldiers and Wilcox that the failure was "all my fault". Pickett was inconsolable for the rest of the day and never forgave Lee for ordering the charge. When Lee told Pickett to rally his division for the defense, Pickett allegedly replied, "General, I have no division."
But Lee enjoyed a cultlike popularity and so blame shifted in the popular imagination  Longstreet was on the verge of making a different fatal mistake for different reasons so Lee's change up was not less likely to doom the Confederacy that day than Longstreet's plan but officially Longstreet objected to Pickett's Charge and carried out that attack under protest.
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I guarantee more people hated Longstreet than Lee.
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Pickett asked Longstreet, "General, shall I advance?" Longstreet recalled in his memoirs, "The effort to speak the order failed, and I could only indicate it by an affirmative bow."

 Some of the many criticisms of Longstreet's Gettysburg performance by the postbellum Lost Cause authors cite this failure as evidence that Longstreet deliberately undermined Lee's plan for the battle.
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what is a "wincon"?
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So i'm back and I claim general john magruder. I am the 1x voyeur and I win with the town
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@Crocodile
What does a voyeur do? I've never seen that role before.
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@SirAnonymous
If i visit a player i will learn what actions were performed on them, but not who targeted them.

tbh i didn't know that either