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@oromagi
What do you think of the conversation between me and Water?
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@PressF4Respect
Town talking to town
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@Vader
So appearently I can’t enjoy my summer without being scum to oromagi? Wtf kind of logic is this. This is horrid. What kind of forced vote is that? Oromagi is force voting me for being inactiveVTL oromagi
Enjoying summer is well-established scum tell
Vote Count:
Speedrace (1/7) - User
LittleCookie (1/7) - Oromagi
Water (1/7) - Press
Oro (1/7) - Supa
VTNL (1/7) - RM
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@PressF4Respect
> @oromagiWhat do you think of the conversation between me and Water?
noise
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@RationalMadman
@oromagi
Alrighty then.
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@oromagi
If you had to guess three scum out of everyone here, who would they be and why?
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@oromagi
Your helpfulness is really something to behold
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@PressF4Respect
it's there in my reads
SupaDudz
Warren
LittleCookie
That's only based on slowness to table and I apply less than 15% confidence to any one read.
I don't hold much to personality reading based on posts and in my experience most scum hunting is pretty deluded- mostly it just keeps town from clearly evaluating the few cogent facts available.
As RM says, I'm not that good at mafia.
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@oromagi
Enjoying summer is well-established scum tell
Wait... are you serious about this?
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@PressF4Respect
No he isn't
I have exactly the same reads now as before. Supa participated but it didn't help or give any new info, he overreacted to a random vote from Oromagi and thus I still consider him a null read leaning to scum.
I default people to scum btw, the opposite of what Oromagi does.
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@RationalMadman
Really? I know it seems like a gag, but not only did he say that Supa is scum more than once (in fact he just showed that Supa was his top scum read), but he's also VTLing him right now.
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@PressF4Respect
No he isn't he's voting cookie
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@RationalMadman
Whoops, didn't see that. My bad.
But he still includes Supa in the list of people who he thinks is scum right now.
@RationalMadman
What? No, of course he's serious. Everyone who enjoys their summer is 100% scum, I can confirm.
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@PressF4Respect
That is because he is a very literal tjinker and is saying we have no solid reads to go on other than who lurked at first and arrived late. I don't agree with it but I also do think that inactives hurt games.
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@PressF4Respect
Aren't you thinking waterphoenix is scum because he's defending speedrace? So, if everyone is certain speedrace is scum, why don't we vtl him?
I haven't been on much. From what I'm hearing, I can deduce these things:
Though SpeedRace has been inactive from what I've seen, this does not make him mafia.
It also does not make WaterPhoenix mafia, for defending someone who is obviously not.
I suggest we VTNL.
V.T.N.L
Vote Count:
VTNL (2/7) - RM, Bear
Speedrace (1/7) - User
LittleCookie (1/7) - Oromagi
Water (1/7) - Press
Oro (1/7) - Supa
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@oromagi
Why do you suggest that LittleCookie is mafia?
I haven't been on much. From what I'm hearing, I can deduce these things:Though SpeedRace has been inactive from what I've seen, this does not make him mafia.It also does not make WaterPhoenix mafia, for defending someone who is obviously not.
Have you read any reads?
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@BearMan
--> @oromagiWhy do you suggest that LittleCookie is mafia?
that would be an overstatement. My observation is that very inactive players are more often scum than players that behave scummy (particularly in games with lots of new players)
DP1 is too early for claims or observations, its just a lot of people saying "what do you think of player x? what do you think of what player y said?" looking for scumslips but in fact most apparent scum slips are just town mistakes or irrational town play. The odds of mislynch are very, very high.
VTNL is one workaround but I believe the increased odds of scum being in the inactive pool recommends that we VTL inactives until they participate, up to and including lynching. SInce we are likely to mislynch anyway, far better to eliminate a non-informational inactive than a scummy seeming active player.
We're down to two total inactives: Warren and cookie. Warren always plays the no info slug and is stubborn about it, while my guess is that cookie is a little more susceptible to pressure. Therefore, VTL cookie.
Until both cookie and Warren join, I am 100% willing to lynch either and unwilling to VTNL. Then I'd be willing to pressure inactives. If activity improves without further real insight towards the end of day, I might join a VTNL.
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@Crocodile
I'm not certain about any of my scumreads, only solid townreads on press, User and WP (de facto also on myself). Noone has truly scumtold yet.
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@oromagi
How are you getting probability increase vs decrease based on players literally being AFK? Scum can be active, surely your logical system of reading realises that.
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@RationalMadman
Bearman is defending people who seem scummy. During PressF's interrogation he called him out on a lot of things. Why would bearman defend these people?
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@Crocodile
What do you mean? I am not Bearman's mouthpiece but I don't see where he was interrogated by Press or vice versa.
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@RationalMadman
Press interrogated Water, who bear was defending. I made another typo sorry
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@Crocodile
I already said it seemed like both were town and cross-examining each other. You are focusing on me why?
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@RationalMadman
I'm not certain about any of my scumreads, only solid townreads on press, User and WP (de facto also on myself). Noone has truly scumtold yet.
You said that to me so I replied.