13 Reasons Why Mafia DP1

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@WaterPhoenix
Your responses smack of apologetics.

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Am I not allowed to enjoy my summer without posting. Jeez lmao
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Good morning. It’s 12:09
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Speedrace (1/7) - User

SupaDudz (1/7) - Oromagi

Water (1/7) - Press

VTNL (1/7) - RM

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So appearently I can’t enjoy my summer without being scum to oromagi? Wtf kind of logic is this. This is horrid. What kind of forced vote is that? Oromagi is force voting me for being inactive 

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Speedrace (1/7) - User

SupaDudz (1/7) - Oromagi

Water (1/7) - Press

Oro (1/7) - Supa

VTNL (1/7) - RM

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@Vader
Look at the conversation I had with Water, and tell me that Water wasn't trying to vehemently defend Speed.
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Here Crocodile says that User is in kahoots with Speedrace, which based on #57, means that Crocodile sees User as lean scum again.
You pointed out a key argument here. It definitely seems that Crocodile is getting twisted on his reads. You have a very solid point. And it’s not like Crocodile hasn’t played mafia. I recall him playing as AvoidDeath (which he openly admitted to), so he is definitely not a noob. His jumping back and forth is a scum sign.
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I meant the last question in that post itself. You clearly knew what I meant, considering the fact that you only responded to the last question of my 4-question post.
no but i didn't that why i put "I hope this is the last one" cause i wasn't really sure
I said that what you described could be a possibility. I clearly said that he was demanding me substantiate my character claim that early in the game, which is not normal town behaviour. You're trying to misconstrue what I said here, and that raises many red flags.

Why else would he demand an explanation so early on? I'm not saying it's 100% a trap, just that it has hints of being a trap. As far as I'm aware of, this isn't normal townplay.
the way thats worded makes it seem like you thought it was a trap all along
Because I didn't fall for it.
this too
Which two posts are you talking about? The character challenge and the question, or the two "lol" posts?
i dont really feel like i need to answer this question

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Morning, my sleep schedule has flipped, I woke up at 6 or 7 today. That's 6 or 7 pm by the way.
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How do you claim that Speed is a town with no claims yet Press claimed Miller on D1 with a role? What lmao
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@PressF4Respect
Well, I wouldn't say vehemently, but I'm not gonna recoil just cause you're putting pressure on me. Relating a claimed role to a character doesn't seem like inherently scummy play to me.
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I didn't say speed was town i said he was lean town. And miller is an inherently scummy claim.
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@PressF4Respect
As much as I agree that his takes were foolish, I don’t read into them heavily. I think Crocodiles jumpiness is more scummy to me than WP
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@WaterPhoenix
I agree, but look at his role claim. It’s extremely elaborate and detailed. With that claim, I find it hard he would fake claim with that ability 
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I haven't seen WP play in a few months, so Supa, tell me. Has Water been playing like this (defending others to this degree) in other games where he was town?
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He went AWOL for like a month and then hasn’t played mafia since then. I don’t recall his play
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Because in all the games that I recall being in with WP, I don't remember a single time he was like this.

It's also a noob scum instinct to defend your scum buddy to make them look innocent when they are being pressured.
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I don't think it's a sub-optimal town play. Claiming miller at the start is much more believable than if someone claimed miller after a cop said they were guilty, which would be the sus-est thing ever.
Here he's saying I'm not playing a sub-optimal town play (implying that the fact that I claimed this early as miller seems town).

And miller is an inherently scummy claim.
Here he's saying I look scummy because I claimed miller.



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Well it certainly does seem like press put a butt ton of effort into his char claim. Though the effort itself can't justify if he's town or mafia, on one hand, town would want to convince other town that they really are miller and mafia would want to convince town that they are town. I think when you say elaborate you mean that it's elaborate because it closely resembled the original pm. But while the first paragraph of press's pm does resemble my pm a bit the next two don't really.

Also, he drowned Bryce in the ocean(which seems heinous on the outside) but was doing it in an attempt to protect his friends, and felt deep regret afterwards.
This looks like something pressf added on by himself
Dirty and monstrous on the outside, innocent on the inside. That is why I'm miller.
I didn't have anything like "Dirty and monstrous on the outside, innocent on the inside" before my role claim though

This is just based off of my pm though, and pie might have made it so everyone's pms are different. You guys can look at your pms and see if they look like the char claim that press made.

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I didn't have anything like "Dirty and monstrous on the outside, innocent on the inside" before my role claim though

This looks like something pressf added on by himself
It's called paraphrasing your PMs... 

Also I assume you're not a miller...

Are you seriously trying to get others to scumread me based off of this? It screams desperate.
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No, listen, claiming miller is inherently scummy because it could be a fake claim by scum in case a cop investigated. So you're inherently sus but the play isn't that bad for town.
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It's called paraphrasing your PMs... 
Ya, which shows you put a lot of effort into it.
Also I assume you're not a miller...
no
Are you seriously trying to get others to scumread me based off of this? It screams desperate.
im not

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Ya, which shows you put a lot of effort into it.
You said that my character claim (more like one specific part of it) didn't look like your PMs. It was implied in your post that it was a possible scumtell. I said it might look like that because I paraphrased it. And now you're trying to say that I intended that remark to show that I put effort into it, and not to say why my char claims don't look exactly like your PMs. You are literally trying to redirect my statement. 

Are you seriously trying to get others to scumread me based off of this? It screams desperate.
im not
Then what was the point of #171?

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Supa, Oromagi blatantly voted you as you're afk because of the norm of random bandwagon on day one.

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Look at the conversation between me and Water. What do you think of it?
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You said that my character claim (more like one specific part of it) didn't look like your PMs. It was implied in your post that it was a possible scumtell. I said it might look like that because I paraphrased it. And now you're trying to say that I intended that remark to show that I put effort into it, and not to say why my char claims don't look exactly like your PMs. You are literally trying to redirect my statement. 
Wait no, because you put a lot of effort into it that means you're null cause both scum and town would put a lot of effort into it.
Then what was the point of #171?
So that supa didn't hard town read you from that character descrpition

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VTL  LittleCookie08 aka PinkFreud08

6. Oromagi             
TOWN
2. PressF4Respect               MILLER          Alex Standall
1. Speedrace
3. User_2006
12. SimplyBeOurselves
8. Crocodile
7. BearMan
4. RationalMadman
10. WaterPhoenix
5. SupaDudz
AWOL
9. Warren
11. LittleCookie
SCUM

UVC
Speedrace (1/7) - User
VTNL (1/7) - RM
WP (1/7)-  press
Oro (1/7)- Supa
Cookie (1/7)- Oro