13 Reasons Why Mafia DP1

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Also, how come you're trying to persuade me that it's not a trap, even though you describe the trap that they're not going to try in detail?
I hope this is the last one. Firstly, this plan would bank on you claiming miller, and counterclaiming wouldn't necessarily put mafia at an advantage. Secondly, this trap that may have been set didn't even work. 

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Please explain yourself with regards to the post above.
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I've suspected him for scum, but then I realized he was probably making noob moves. My end decision was two-sided. Either, he's scum, or he's just making stupid noob mistakes. My claim has been the same since the begining.
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You're saying Speed is Scum, right?
I'm not 100% sure. But, I think he is scumbuddies with User. See post above for more info. I think Bearman is third mafia, but I'm not entirely sure.
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He's provided good insights, though short.

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I don't think we even need to lynch. Based on the cast of characters and dynamics being investigation-heavy (since there's miller that supports this theory on top of the show being prone to investigation), we should just nolynch and see results. Keep talking, but still no lynch.
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I still think we need to doubt results if they're innocent (as miller implies the opposite is happening in mafia via a Godfather or something along those lines) but the results nonetheless let forced cc's happen and enable slips.
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Croc: He's either scum or town.  That's more story and I'm sticking to it....or third party.  He's either scum or town or third party.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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thanks for the very valuable input.
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I hope this is the last one.
The last of what? 

Firstly, this plan would bank on you claiming miller
It didn't bank on it, because I already claimed miller.

and counterclaiming wouldn't necessarily put mafia at an advantage.
It definitely could. For example, if they CC and manage to persuade everyone to lynch me, then they would have two members down easy. Even if they lose one member, they would still have gotten at least 2 for 1.

Secondly, this trap that may have been set didn't even work. 
Because I didn't fall for it.

I know this might seem blown out of proportion, but based on the way he played so far, I definitely wouldn't put him as lean town.

Also, you claimed he was decently active. How so?


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Speedrace (1/7) - User

SupaDudz (1/7) - Oromagi

Crocodile (1/7) - Press

Approximately 61 hours remaining

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I've suspected him for scum, but then I realized he was probably making noob moves. My end decision was two-sided. Either, he's scum, or he's just making stupid noob mistakes. My claim has been the same since the begining.
Then why did you say "he's sure as hell not mafia"?
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Speedrace is probably scum. The problem with User, is again, he's a newbie.
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Thank you for the very helpful input...
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I was deciding between the two options. I realized that both were equally as likely and decided not to vote for him, because he specified he had a night role. That could be doctor.
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Do you know what "sure as hell" means?
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Exaggeration is part of my personality
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The last of what? 
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It didn't bank on it, because I already claimed miller.
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It definitely could. For example, if they CC and manage to persuade everyone to lynch me, then they would have two members down easy. Even if they lose one member, they would still have gotten at least 2 for 1.
It'd be hard to persuade everyone to lynch
Because I didn't fall for it.

I know this might seem blown out of proportion, but based on the way he played so far, I definitely wouldn't put him as lean town.

Also, you claimed he was decently active. How so?
You thought that speed suggesting a char was a trap? And he's been fairly active, he typed character suggestion and responded to the questions on the first and second page. I didn't say he was very active, just decently active.

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UNVOTE

But I'm still concerned about this, and all other townsfolk should be too.
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VTNL

(vote to no lynch)
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Speedrace (1/7) - User

SupaDudz (1/7) - Oromagi

VTNL (1/7) - RM

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Why do you hope this is the last of the questions?

It'd be hard to persuade everyone to lynch
If I take the bait, I'd essentially be playing right into their hands. Because he suggested it to me, they would claim that I'm lying, and there would be a good chance I would be lynched on DP1.

You thought that speed suggesting a char was a trap?
Why else would he demand an explanation so early on? I'm not saying it's 100% a trap, just that it has hints of being a trap. As far as I'm aware of, this isn't normal townplay.

And he's been fairly active, he typed character suggestion and responded to the questions on the first and second page. I didn't say he was very active, just decently active.
Where was Speedrace decently active? He directly challenged my character claim (demanding an explanation for it ASAP), answered to one question (which was so easy to respond to that it could possibly be set up, and would also make the asker look extremely scummy if they weren't new), and said "lol" twice. That was all he did in this thread. He made only one post which could be counted as substantive.



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Why do you hope this is the last of the questions?
Because you said to only answer the last question
If I take the bait, I'd essentially be playing right into their hands. Because he suggested it to me, they would claim that I'm lying, and there would be a good chance I would be lynched on DP1.
I guess so
Why else would he demand an explanation so early on? I'm not saying it's 100% a trap, just that it has hints of being a trap. As far as I'm aware of, this isn't normal townplay.
oh really? so you anticipated that speed's char suggestion was the hypothetical trap i just suggested? but you didn't mention it before?
Where was Speedrace decently active? He directly challenged my character claim (demanding an explanation for it ASAP), answered to one question (which was so easy to respond to that it could possibly be set up, and would also make the asker look extremely scummy if they weren't new), and said "lol" twice. That was all he did in this thread. He made only one post which could be counted as substantive.
I would count those two posts as decently active

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Hello all! I am busy working on music and stuff. Just saw this mafia came out and am reading up on it
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I buy Press’s Miller Claim. It’s a legit claim that makes sense in the world of 13RW
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It’s also such a vivid character description that I believe it must be some sort of overall truth to it. With such accuracy, this is a claim that I believe to be true
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User_2006 tends to make some false reads in game that go wild. He may have learn, but it’s his third time playing. I’m much more willing to let him slide on it until he demonstrates a better knowledge of mafia
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Because you said to only answer the last question
I meant the last question in that post itself. You clearly knew what I meant, considering the fact that you only responded to the last question of my 4-question post.

oh really? so you anticipated that speed's char suggestion was the hypothetical trap i just suggested? but you didn't mention it before?
I said that what you described could be a possibility. I clearly said that he was demanding me substantiate my character claim that early in the game, which is not normal town behaviour. You're trying to misconstrue what I said here, and that raises many red flags.

I would count those two posts as decently active
Which two posts are you talking about? The character challenge and the question, or the two "lol" posts?