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@RationalMadman
I believe speedrace is town
This is a townread
I do not 'townread' Speedrace
I just want to clarify this RM. These two statements seem directly contradictory.
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@Crocodile
That’s a huge claim to make. That’s obviously a power role without a doubt? Why would you claim that. A i is one of the most prevalent characters in the story and has a huge impact. That makes no sense to claim. I also consider that a bit scummy imo. You weren’t even pressured to claim, and it’s not like you claimed this beginning of the day.
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@RationalMadman
Theme splits don’t have to be good versus bad if that’s what you are referring to
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@PressF4Respect
They don't. Read what I said after clarifying that I don't townread speedrace. I am reading him as town based on my scumread on Oromagi and situations (and wanted to make that clear, in the sense that I am not townreading Speedrace).
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@Vader
they are in a game where the miller is a character who was very similar to miller and where the very paraphrased PM indeed highlights that. I also know from my own role PM that my character's role and tendencies in the series are linked to his role (I have had to out that I'm a male character as I was pressured to reveal something about the character).
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@Vader
That’s a huge claim to make. That’s obviously a power role without a doubt? Why would you claim that. A i is one of the most prevalent characters in the story and has a huge impact.
See, you feel exactly the same as I did (actually you even repeated what I said except you made it explicit it's a power role that was what I wanted to avoid explicitly saying). I read this too and was shocked he outed that so suddenly.
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@RationalMadman
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@simplybeourselves
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@Press I NEVER pushed for your claim, all I said was "I'm guessing your Monty." You then proceeded to offer up your character of your own will, you trying to push that as being scummy makes me suspect you
And you said that it implies I know the connections Pie uses?? What?? It was a guess because I've seen the show, plus Monty is literally the most obvious
In response to post 119 from Press
How do you know my character from my role claim? How do you know which links between my character and my role are present? How do you know what aspects Pie focused on when adapting the roles to the characters?
I didn't *demand* your justification. I politely asked. And I did it because I think Monty makes way more sense and Alex would make way more sense as godfather
I don't *know* anything, Monty was simply the obvious choice for me for Miller.
@simplybeourselves press is claiming Miller lol, that's literally the one role you're supposed to instantly claim, nothing wrong with him doing it early
@rationalmadman I just got Netflix for the first time ever this year and I watched the first 3 seasons a couple of months ago, I wasn't doing research, and again I suggested Monty because he's the obvious Miller
I agree with the read on Crocodile with the flip-flopping
Can someone explain why everyone thinks I'm in kahoots with User?
User is also playing extremely anti-town, very reminiscent of GreyParrot
And enjoying your summer is an instant scum giveaway
I agree with oromagi's inactivity thing
Ani is not guaranteed to be town
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@RationalMadman
I understand. I’m going to assume it’s a good vs evil, as I believe Pie’s splits have been that way, but it’s isn’t guaranteed
Also, I'm thinking that Miller was a possible safe claim for Press as Mafia. It makes exactly 0 sense to choose Alex over Monty for Miller. Literally no sense. I town read oro for pointing out the possibility of a safe claim
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@RationalMadman
See, you feel exactly the same as I did (actually you even repeated what I said except you made it explicit it's a power role that was what I wanted to avoid explicitly saying). I read this too and was shocked he outed that so suddenly.
It’s similar because it’s true. Half claims are more likely than not claims of a power role, because you aren’t giving a role but a character, which means you want to hide something. Yes there is a possibility it is a vanilla role, but I’d take my odds that they are a power role. It’s just foolish to claim a power role without pressure
Now good night, I'll be back in when I wake up though
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@Speedrace
If you agree with Oro’s inactivity theory, you should lynch yourself then
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@Vader
Lol shush
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@Speedrace
*insert lenny face like boss*
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@Crocodile
Why are you pressuring people to claim in DP1? That just gives more options for mafia to target if they claim.
Unvote
Vote Count:
Speedrace (3/7) - User, Crocodile, Bear
Oro (1/7) - RM
LittleCookie (1/7) - Oromagi
Water (1/7) - Press
Crocodile is at the top of my scum pack. The claim with no pressure is extremely non sensible and even detrimental to the town as a whole. His flip flopping on reads with User (as Press pointed out), gives me an indicator he is scum. How can you be so inconsistent on a read. He clearly was trying to ride a bandwagon wave? I dislike the pressuring for claims, as it seems like he is hunting for targets
I’m not going to make a VTL toward them morning though. I was a bit reactionary to Oromagi, I’ll admit, but his logic was so outlandish IMO, that it felt scummy. I still think it’s scummy, as I never really seen him pressure so much about activity in game, but it’s not as strong of a determiner as what Croc has done
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@Speedrace
Can someone explain why everyone thinks I'm in kahoots with User?
I do not think this at all, not even slightly.
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@Speedrace
Never ruled out Press as a safe claim and instantly gave him town confirmed. But his combination of play and deep analysis leads me to swing more town than scum. Yes Oromagi is right, but combining play factor and other aspects, I definitely say Press is more town than scum
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@Vader
Ani is seriously confirmed town, if you are Ani do not 'soft cc' it is never going to be believed later. You are the only player other than me (well Bearman and Speedrace indirectly agreed with me) that has admitted that characters in the show are linked to their in-game alignment.
Crocodile can't be scum if he's Ani, there is no way that makes sense given what I have read up on the characters (yes I admit to reading up on them in this past day, I already knew the gist of the show before this even).
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@RationalMadman
My character links, but the justification is very corny
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@Speedrace
I NEVER pushed for your claim, all I said was "I'm guessing your Monty." And you said that it implies I know the connections Pie uses?? What?? It was a guess because I've seen the show, plus Monty is literally the most obvious.
And I did it because I think Monty makes way more sense and Alex would make way more sense as godfatherI don't *know* anything, Monty was simply the obvious choice for me for Miller.
But here's the thing: Why would you "guess" my character for me?
You then proceeded to offer up your character of your own will, you trying to push that as being scummy makes me suspect you
If I was scum making a fake claim, then I would've been like "yeah, I'm Monty" because you would've already believed it.
Unless you suggested the character as a counterclaim trap.
I didn't *demand* your justification. I politely asked.
Politely demanded. Let's go with that.
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@RationalMadman
They don't. Read what I said after clarifying that I don't townread speedrace. I am reading him as town based on my scumread on Oromagi and situations (and wanted to make that clear, in the sense that I am not townreading Speedrace).
Ok, got it.
Hmmm, a lot of people seem to be agreeing with Rat's theme theory. Since the idea is out there we should make a chart to see if everyone's char relates with their role and are good guys.
chart:
1. ratman- says character relates with his role (is male)
2. bearman- says character relates with his role
3. supadudz- says character relates with role
4. press- character relates with role
5. wp- my character has to do with my role
Ite It’s 1:30 and I’m logging off. I’ll check up in the morning
We must lynch, nolynch only helps mafia at this point.
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@oromagi
Not a lot of reasoning from RM here- seems quite agitated and I don't believe him when he seems to not understand my caution re: assuming alignment.
It does seem quite agitated. But there is some reasoning.
Unvote Speed.
Now that I think of it, we're basing all our scum reads on activities with Speedrace. But what has speed done wrong in the first place? Please tell me.
Why are you pressuring people to claim in DP1? That just gives more options for mafia to target if they claim.
But, that gives me a higher chance of survival. And my chance of survival is what you need.