Role Pass Quickfire DP1

Because why not?

Ok ok catching up, so I guess we are going with Water. Gonna read before laying down a hammer

Dude wtf is going on with this do. 

Can we vtnl

People are sheeping drafter hard , there is no reason not to vtnl. Even if they have the gun it doesn't matter. It gives us a dp without mylo to analyze a np

How is drafter wildly claiming that Water is scum when has only posted like 4-5 times. This is silly. I am not hammering this until he explains why he is doing this. If he turns scum, this is purely luck then

How is drafter wildly claiming that Water is scum when has only posted like 4-5 times. This is silly. I am not hammering this until he explains why he is doing this. If he turns scum, this is purely luck then

Oops double post. Ignore that. DART Bug: 100

Again, this is not true. In Protect the President, he made the wrong judgement that cost town the game. I bet you the same thing is happening here

To walk through this if we mislynch we are at mylo tomorrow. (if we don't hit the gun Smith) . That means it's basically lylo assuming mafia has the gun because we either have to lynch properly tomorrow or they will pass the gun back to each other and the nk will end the game. 

Don't blindly lynch ffs 

If we don't hit the gun Smith and if mafia has the gun we are effectively at lylo tomorrow

Take your votes off ffs

Drafter is leading a random lynch

Speed race and rag are sheeping 

Just keep that in mind. 

I think drafter is randomly leading a town lynch because of his judgement, (which cost us PTP QF), and Speed is blindly following

Mafia wants a mislynch right now. Especially if they have the gun because if they do have the gun (and I agree we can assume they have since they have not outed ) 

That makes us have to get it right tomorrow or it's done. 

Drafter is smart enough to know this as well 

Scum is definetly on a Water wagon. Not to mention Water isn't the best candidate for a lynch. He only talked like 5 times in game, not much to indicate scum

If we do go to lynch (which again, disagree with) I would put Speed on trial. He blindly jumped onto a wagon without any reason besides the YOLO, which is inherently bad especially in a QF game

Dude you people are literally making me log into my computer to type this. Drafter is a super experience player. Again really think about the game balance and what has happened so far. 

(1) Rag instantly claimed mechanic 

(a) for town cred

(b) for whatever stupid reason he decided was a good idea (no offense just don't think this was a good move)

(2) It actually would make sense for the gunsmith to out with where this is going currently, the fact that he hasn't means mafia likely has the gun

(3) If mafia has the gun then they are 100 percent going to pass it back and forth to each other. The only way to avoid this is if we lynch a mafia. The mafia who has it would have to pass it town regardless due to the rules

Drafter is an experience player, he is not a retard. 

(4) With this game having 7 people, if mafia gets a mislynch it will work like this

dp1 - 6 to 2

np1 - they kill 5 to 2

dp2 - no matter what happens, whether we vtnl or not, they still have the gun. They will nk on np2 and its plurality mafia and they win

Drafter has this already worked out, he is either scum or he is 100 percent sure water is scum. There is nothing water has posted to say he is scum, there is no reads. Drafter is also not this autistic to do this. He thinks you people are sheeps and will just follow

Drafter is scum and one of the people sheeping him are scum

Drafter

Speed Race, or Rag

that is the scum team, or drafter has lost his mind 

My guess is Speed. Ragnar is a bit of a noob in terms of mafia and could trust drafter as a "big mafia brother" type figure. Also they both are mods, so....

Speed actually knows how to play mafia and plays in to chaos as scum. He survived 5 DP's without being lynched when me and SirAnon went down in D1 and D2 in The Office.

Actually walking this back

I didn't math out the other way, even if we vtnl tomorrow ends the game. 

np1 - 6 to 2

lynch tomorrow - 5 to 2 ( We have to lynch assuming they have gun)

np2 - it still wound end

reverting what im saying, under the assumption they have the gun, we actually have to lynch today because it gives us 2 lynches vs 1

walk me through your logic 

I'm not a noob, just a fucking idiot

My preferred option is to VTNL, but I am not opposed to lynching drafter

If enough evidence comes out for drafter

Scum

Speed

drafter

Null

Water

Rag

Town

Duh

oro

I'd put rag in a lean town category

i have no choice but to vtnl cause i don't wanna die obviously, idk wtf you guys are doing but there's def at least two maf on that wagon and one idiotic townie. the hell are you guys doing

dont mess this up

Okay reading this back this is the claims list

Oro - Vanilla

Super - Vanilla

Me - Vanilla (Claiming now)

Rag - Mech

Speed - Vanilla

Drafter - ?

Water - ?

I still think drafter is scum but for an entirely different reason after thinking on it hard

(1)  Lynching the gunsmith now is prob the most inherent towny thing we could do. Because it would give us 2 more lynch chances and night phases to analyze.Drafter suggesting this is either inherently towny or he is scum and knows they have the gun(as mafia), and he is doing this to build town cred knowing no one on town will claim gunsmith (obviously because he has the gun) and it would allow him to push a lynch on someone. He went for a read lynch on water and the only post I can even find that may give him some sort of a read to push a lynch like this is 

#21 where water asks luna can mafia pass the gun between each other. Maybe drafter could read that as water being like, o crap i have the gun and i can pass this to my scum buddy, but other than that, water has posting nothing to justify a lynch. 

Going Past this we have to lynch today, for reasons I explained above and I was right about this time and not just rambling. There is 2 ways this game can go assuming mafia has the gun, and they have to have the gun because not outing as this point confirms they have it. Because whatever drafters motivation for posting that was, he's right. Lynching the gunsmith atm, is the best choice. 

path 1

day 1 - vtnl 

night 2 - kill 6 to 2

day 2 - (we have to lynch now because they have the gun and will float it, so not lynching ends the game either way) 5 to 2

night 2 - kill  4 to 2

game over

path 2 

dp1 - Lynch - 6 to 2 (if mislynch)

np1 - kill 5 to 2 

dp2 - lynch or lose

No matter what path 2 is the best option because it gives us 2 lynches. The only thing that would change is is a 1/7 chance the vest goes to the right person, but still ends up affecting nothing because they will continue to pass the gun back and forth. The only way to break this is to kill one of the mafia so the gun has to go to a towny

I think we mass claim now and i'll explain why

we are likely going to lynch cus drafter is pushing it and by not lynching we lose a lynch and only will have 1 (as i said)

so being able to use process of elim by locking people into roles gives us a better shot at hitting a lynch. I am also convinced the guy who passes the armor is town because he would have claimed it already as mafia, he's lowkey trying to pass it and hope he gets it right

point being is the more information we have now

we are likely to hit a lynch at a higher rate, than the body guard actually blocking a nk. So anything we have now we need to claim because no matter what it won't affect the game cus mafia has the gun. 

so spill your roles

If u r town then u r messing up by not claiming

claim

anything we have now helps us