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Oro is right, you need to claim 
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Also ping me if you wanna ask something. I am reading the sound and the fury and am having dart open for extra light

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I don't think we are going to lynch, and I refuse to lynch water until I hear from drafter why and if he can explain what he is thinking. I think water is the armor guy

and I'm going to trust my instinct as wrong as it can be

Unvote VTNL

VTL Drafter
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also to clarify why i said i dont think we will lynch, is its like 2 hours and everyone is afk but without info, trusting my gut on the drafter thing

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VTL Drafter for claim and explanation re: WP

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VTNL- 2/4 - supadudz, waterphoenix
Waterphoenix - 3/4 - Drafterman, ragnar, speedrace
Drafterman - 2/4 - DuhHamburglar, oromagi


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@drafterman
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VTL Drafter

We only have an hour left and we need a lynch. Drafter is the best candidate. I think Speed is still scum ever way
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Actually, don't want to risk the hammer by mafia if they haven't hammered

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Drafter is almost definitely town because doing random risky stuff like this isn't his Mafia behavior
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It's 8pm and with an hour left, I don't feel waiting til 8:59:59 CST to hammer


VTL Drafter


I think he is scum, and it just seems we are going away with the whole VTNL thing I guess, which I think is dumb. If we are doing punch for punch, then I am saying drafter is the best one to go for right now

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I'm also voting now because idk if I will be on to vote again
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Sorry, a friend came over to grind videogames. If it wasn't obvious already I'm vanilla.
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5 vanillas is impossible. My best bet is your the BP giver but are hiding it due to fear of dying in the NP, since you are a new players and that fear was rational for me as well when I played

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drafter explain yourself


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this is so frustrating 
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i was for sure water was going to claim the armor guy, now im starting to think its drafter and he isnt claiming because he thinks its stupid to claim. I really want to hear from him before we pick a target
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VTNL- 1/4 - waterphoenix
Waterphoenix - 1/4 - Drafterman
Drafterman - 2/4 - oromagi, supadudz


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this will probs be my last post of dp, so i am going to leave with this


I think Water is town, but not playing a smart town game

I also think Drafter is scum along with Speed, but I think Speed is a definite scum fmpov. He was on a questionable wagon with a bad reason behind it, in some weird attempt to gain town cred bc it's drafter and drafter seems to be god. If Drafter flips scum and Speed doesn't hammer, I think he is scum. If he flips town and Speed hammers, I think Speed is scum. I don't Speed weird bandwagon logic in this game and it is giving me a scum vibe to him.

Duh fmpov is the most town right now. Good analysis right now and very consistent analysis. Also smart on him for taking the VTL off Drafter, since I can't hop on til later
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I don't think it's logical to lynch water at the moment right now. The bandwagon we had is a bit unfair and we don't have a strong read on behavior right now since he has only posted like 6x and no subjective behavior was made


I don't like the Vanilla claim so late, but I don't hate it. I am more willing to believe this is Water being a bad town by not claiming Vanilla early. He is prone to mistakes (eg: he outed himself in mafia). No disrespect, but he isn't the best player, just like me 
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I do like the lynch on Drafter, because I think it is logical to assume Drafter knows the consequences of a random lynch in this stage, and only a mafia would try to aggressively push for a lynch. Drafter seemed to just throw poor ol Water under the bus without reason or logic
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The reason i'm pushing for someone to claim the armor thing is! at this point is because I'm sure they have to be town. Mafia would have claimed for town cred or played it off in a attempt to pass it to a person we told them to. Meaning whoever has this is only not claiming because they think they are helping town.

Gun is obviously not claiming because he is going to get lynched, and tech one person could have 3 rolls

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i'm second guessing this drafter pick so hard
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also it will probs say im on, but i have a tab of DA open cuz I am working on a 10k forum post thingy and my old records are saved as a tab so yea
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I am going to end the day phase 10 minutes early, since I will be leaving work from then and it will be my last chance to do so tonight.

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@oromagi
"If the vest-maker makes Ragnar a vest NP1 he is bulletproof.  If the gun-maker makes Ragnar a gun NP1, we have no need of a mechanic and we can instruct Ragnar exactly who he must kill.  If anybody other than specified is killed, Ragnar gets killed.  At the end of Ragnar's NP, he gives gun, vest, and mechanic to a pre-agreed upon player who follows the same process."

walk me through this logic
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No lynching is useless and we aren't going to get a lynch on anyone but drafter at this point and he will not be here to defend himself

I'm really second guessing this and would like to hear his logic on some things but at this point , not lynching is the same as lynching wrong

at least we have a shot with drafter. I quite possibly may have fucked the town by building a case without being able to hear from him


VTL Drafter

again doing this because literally not lynching gives us the same problem next dp and I still have a gut feeling about this