Captain America: Civil War Mafia - DP1

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it was MLK day and you still discriminating the greeks, smh
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I am not going to claim iny very first post (obviously) but I will mention right away that my role is not a particularly common one.

Now to read the DP.
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Wait WTF 7 PAGES DEAR GOD FUCKING WHY?!
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Get cracking!
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Here is a tl;dr

Grey claims a bastard role (suicidal)
Supa hints role being bad and lying
SirAnon doesn't believe
Supa claims a Lover role
Singularity claims to be Supa's lover
That kills 2 people in targetted
Grey bandwagon
Setup is iffy
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But fucking why?

Damnit. Guess I will find out soon enough. My guess is that the answer involves someone breaking rule number one of being a townie, which reads: 'Never try to convince your scum reads that they are scum'.
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If Grey is town, horrible setup with bastard role, if Grey is scum, we got a scum
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Ok I will start reading then lmao.
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No claim DP1 beyond I AM TOWN

Power in ancient Rome is like Ryan Choi
without the negativity: take the 13th and
remove his quiet with tea. Try
urine before a canopy.

"art thou but
A dagger of the mind, a false creation,
Proceeding from the heat-oppressed brain?"

-shakeSPEARe

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who's got a vote count?


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TOWN
SupaDudz             LOVER (1of2)    Captain America
Singularity             LOVER (2or2)    Bucky Barnes
Greyparrot             SUICIDAL         Helmut Zemo
ILikePie5                 (power)
SirAnonymous
WaterPhoenix
Bullish
Ragnar
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drafterman
Lunatic
warren42
SCUM

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Steve Rodgers, not Capt America

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5/7 on GP
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Steve Rodgers is Capt America but whatever
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TOWN
SupaDudz             LOVER (1of2)    Stephanie Rogers
Singularity             LOVER (2or2)    Bucky Barnes
Greyparrot             SUICIDAL         Helmut Zemo
ILikePie5                 (power)
SirAnonymous
WaterPhoenix
Bullish
Ragnar
Discipulus_Didicit
drafterman
Lunatic
warren42
SCUM


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TOWN
SupaDudz             LOVER (1of2)    Steve Rogers
Singularity             LOVER (2or2)    Bucky Barnes
Greyparrot             SUICIDAL         Helmut Zemo
ILikePie5                 (power)
SirAnonymous
WaterPhoenix
Bullish
Ragnar
Discipulus_Didicit
drafterman
Lunatic
warren42
SCUM

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TOWN
SupaDudz             LOVER (1of2)    Steve Rogers
Singularity             LOVER (2or2)    Bucky Barnes
Greyparrot             SUICIDAL         Helmut Zemo
ILikePie5                 (power)
SirAnonymous
WaterPhoenix
Bullish
Ragnar
Discipulus_Didicit
drafterman
Lunatic
warren42
SCUM

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Okay just finished page 3... Couple thoughts...

1) Why has nobody asked GP to claim what day he will commit suicide on? This should have been the very first question after a suicidal claim. Do I have to do everything myself?

2) GP obv town

3) Supa prob town

4) Bullish obv scum ("Question - Disc, why do you scum read Bullish? Answer - At least give me some time to fucking catch up, I will explain my read shortly. Damn.)

5) SirAnon poss town
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When is your suicide DP? Do you die at the beginning or end of your suicide DP? Ask speed via PM to clarify if you do not already know the second answer.

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) Why has nobody asked GP to claim what day he will commit suicide on? This should have been the very first question after a suicidal claim. Do I have to do everything myself?

If I recollect correctly, this was discussed and ended with Pie advising against.
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Look at balancing though, hella bastard if there is sing and I's role plus Gp role. 4 town can die in one DP unless you have a power role. Then it's horrible balancing and I am not willing to bet on that
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Why has nobody asked GP to claim what day he will commit suicide on? This should have been the very first question after a suicidal claim. Do I have to do everything myself?

If I recollect correctly, this was discussed and ended with Pie advising against.

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I'm going to bed, it's 12:40AM and I just finished most of my hmwrk. I got home at 8:30PM CST, I am exhausted. 
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Lover is not a particularly town claim:

Lovers have been known to be of any alignment. It is not at all implausible to have Lovers in Town-scum pairs.

Tragic Lovers are a rather annoying variant. One can be town aligned. The other can be scum aligned. Each lover can have two win conditions. It can win with its own alignment as its lover loses. Or they can win together, acting as their own faction eliminating all other scum and town players.
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this was discussed and ended with Pie advising against.
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That's retarded.
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but pie is not retarded... so what's his game?
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For Town, it's pure negative utility and borderline pointless unless the Suicidal player also has some kind of nice power role to balance it out. For scum, conditional Suicidal modifiers can be used to balance a game such that the positive feedback from scum starting to come out ahead is limited.

In Bastard Mod games, Suicidal players dying very early on (e.g. before the end of the first Day) may suggest that they are still participating in the game, though apparently dead.

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TOWN
ILikePie5                 (power)
SirAnonymous
WaterPhoenix
Bullish
Ragnar
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Greyparrot             SUICIDAL         Helmut Zemo
drafterman
Lunatic
SupaDudz             LOVER (1of2)    Steve Rogers
Singularity             LOVER (2or2)    Bucky Barnes
warren42
SCUM


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but pie is not retarded

Non-retards can still be wrong. Point is that GP should claim his day.

Look at balancing though, hella bastard if there is sing and I's role plus Gp role.

That's retarded. There are several reasonable possible explanations where GP is not scum. Possibility one: There is some unknown factor that balances the game despite this town disadvantage. Possibility two: The game is unbalanced. That is just off the top of my head and if all three possibilities are given equal weight - they should not be by the way, remind me when you read this to tell you all about the game I reviewed for speed - but if they are then there is a 67% chance of GP being town.
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I'm leaning towards possibility one
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Mod said precisely that I will ATTEMPT to kill myself NP3.

I have no clue what that word "attempt" means, possibly there is a town out there that can prevent it.