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@ILikePie5
Regarding your mod philosophy, are you opposed to giving all mafia members safe claims?
Also, time check?
Throne of Glass Mafia DP1
Posts
Total:
304
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@bsh1
I don't know if I should unlynch you.... Can I have a paraphrase of your dm? if you've already sent one.... sry I missed it. But I still want one here quick. Then I'll unlynch you.
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@bsh1
I do not give every mafia a safe claim.
5 hours remaining.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
One of his fluff posts was a mention-in-passing about the Greek elections, something you and Supa put a lot more time into talking about than he did, and a good number of his early game related posts were were ring theme analysis, something I wouldn't expect you to find suspicious given your stance on theme analysis.
I went through an coded Oro's posts as either fluff or non-fluff.
Fluff posts: 10, 13, 15, 19, 23, 38, 43, 46, 54, 60, 69, 80, 83, 84, 90, 98, 148, 156, 169, 174, 212, 214, 217, 236, 237 (total: 25)
Non-fluff: 11, 16, 22, 26, 27, 37, 51, 55, 58, 65, 82, 85, 106, 107, 138, 139, 147, 154, 175, 211, 220, 238 (total: 22)
But, let's break down the "non-fluff" category still further, because there are different kinds of non-fluff posts. Not all "non-fluff" posts are actually helpful.
Scumhunting - Total: 7
- Play Analysis: 82, 106
- Reads: 147, 175^, 238^
- Pressure: 37, 154^
Not Scumhunting - Total: 15
- On Inactives: 65, 85, 107, 138*
- On Roles: 11, 55
- On Theme: 22, 26, 27, 51, 58, 138*, 139
- Other: 211, 220
- RVS: 16
The combined total of fluff and non-scumhunting posts is 40 out of 47, or 85% of Oro's total. So, while Oro has been considerably active, he has spent the vast majority of his time making fluff posts, talking about pressuring inactives, and posting his thoughts on the theme. Even some of his ostensibly scumhunting posts (^) lack any demonstrable analysis from Oro, but are just sort of vague comments that don't really add anything to the discussion; instead, they mostly bandwagon.
While I don't have an issue with theme analysis, I don't think Oro's gone about it in a particularly townie way. The primary goal of theme analysis is to identify patterns in order to test claims against those patterns in the hopes of catching scum in a lie. Oro hasn't done that though--his theme analysis hasn't been directed, as far as I can tell, towards catching scum. It's all been sort of trying to understand the world, which is helpful to some extent, but Oro's dwelt on it more than I find acceptable.
So, Oro is the least scummy people of those I named, IMO. But he is on my radar, because I am not finding his posts to be geared towards unearthing scum.
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@WaterPhoenix
Not gonna provide that, sorry.
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@ILikePie5
I appreciate the answer, and it underscores my point.
But, mod to mod, I would have "no comment"ed that, if I were in your shoes.
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@bsh1
Why?
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@bsh1
Well it depends on how you read the answer I gave you.
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@bsh1
So, Oro is the least scummy people of those I named, IMO. But he is on my radar, because I am not finding his posts to be geared towards unearthing scum.
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@WaterPhoenix
Read every post in the DP. Then, if the answer hasn’t presented itself to you, let me know.
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@ILikePie5
It’s pretty black and white, Pie.
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@bsh1
Not really. There’s a plurality of ways you could interpret my statement.
ATTENTION
4 Hours Remaining.
I'm tempted to vote BSH1 for picking a semantic fight with Pie and then losing.
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@Greyparrot
I'm tempted to vote BSH1 for picking a semantic fight with Pie and then losing.
This has me laughing a lot more than it should.
So if bsh had picked a semantic fight and won that would be okay? XD
#mvpmostvauablepost
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@bsh1
Ok
unvote bsh1
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@Discipulus_Didicit
VTL DD for laughing!
VOTE COUNT
Bsh1 (3/6) - Wylted, oromagi, Disc
Disc (2/6) - bsh1, Greyparrot
Please let me know if I’ve made any errors...
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@Greyparrot
Lmao
Look at post 244 by bsh1. Who has tine for that type of shit. Geez
We are going to be in this same boat tomorrow.
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@Wylted
We are going to be in this same boat tomorrow.
doesn't that imply that you don't really think bsh1 is scum? After all, if we lynch bsh1 and he turns scum our prospect ought to be much improved. But you already don't think so.....perhaps because you already know who is scum and who not?
If you don't think bsh is scum (same boat tomorrow), why are you vtl'ing?
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@oromagi
Or cause we have like an hour left in the DP and will most likely just push this lynch to DP2
ATTENTION
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@Wylted
I suppose I don't feel so convinced that we can't nolynch or lynch the scum and/or absent club instead. & we might get lucky in the night. Why so pessy, mystic?
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@oromagi
Wylted and dd don't seem very towny.
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@Greyparrot
your mom is not towny
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@ILikePie5
I do not give every mafia a safe claim.
I think, unless you're engaging in some kind of semantic contortions, there are only two ways to read that statement, not a plurality. If you meant your answer to be deliberately deceptive then you should not have given it at all, and that would be egregiously terrible modding. The two possible readings are (a) not every mafia member gets a fake claim or (b) not every mafia team gets a fake claim. The former confirms my earlier statement. The latter does as well, since we are talking about whole teams getting or not getting "a" (singular) fake claim. If these readings are not correct, it is incumbent on you to clarify your statement. If you choose to wade into the game as you did, you need to be straightforward with the players.
VTL GP
Him removing his vote on DD when we had a lynch candidate on bsh1 is scum
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@Vader
Getting off a mislynch wagon is not scummy, particularly so close to the end of the DP. If anything, this adds to Grey's towncred. Grey already role-claimed, which means he should be in your "don't lynch rn" pile.
But, if you think it's scummy that his vote isn't on the bsh lynchwagon, why isn't your vote on that wagon? Why, instead, are you pushing a lynch on an obvious townie when there is no time left in the DP to get a new lynchwagon rolling?
Your vote makes no sense.