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@zedvictor4
No women in heaven.A bit of an eternally gay orgy then.
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Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?
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@Shila
@ Brother D. ThomasFor your information I was asked by Stephen to start my own thread on the Religion forum. I have been doing research on the historical Jesus and thought it would be a great start to build a case for the historical Jesus so Christians would cease doubting and atheist start believing.
Indeed. I encouraged you to do so. And what's more, I am looking forward to it.
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@Stephen
-> @Shila@ Brother D. ThomasFor your information I was asked by Stephen to start my own thread on the Religion forum. I have been doing research on the historical Jesus and thought it would be a great start to build a case for the historical Jesus so Christians would cease doubting and atheist start believing.Indeed. I encouraged you to do so. And what's more, I am looking forward to it.
I started a thread to build the case for the historical Jesus. It is just the start.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
I have never changed genders. My gender remains the same as it was the day I was born.
Of course on the forum page for profiles - the characteristics I have identified have changed numerous times.
I have offered as an explanation for this several factors:
1. I was being stalked by both Brother Thomas and Stephen.
2. I may have been hacked.
3. I felt like changing it because I can.
4. It is actually a similar tactic that Brother Thomas used - since his profile is a fake profile.
Any and All of these factors are individually or taken together sufficient explanation for the change on my profile.
And honestly, the repeated attacks - and defamatory abuse by Brother, Stephen and now Shila or harikrish whatever its name is now - demonstrates reasonable and overwhelming excuse for my behaviour.
In any event, au revoir
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@Tradesecret
I was being stalked by both Brother Thomas and Stephen.
Don't make me laugh Reverend. Asking you questions that relate to your own comments and statements made on a forum of the WWW, is not stalking.
the repeated attacks - and defamatory abuse
Asking you to justify any comment or statement made by you on a public forum is not an attack. So stop your whining and whinging.
I personally don't care about your past self confessed sexual deviancy or what you want to call yourself or the gender you decide to be on any given day. What does rouse my curiosity though is why ever, on gods good earth, would a Pastor and Chaplain of all people as you often claim to be would want to portray him/herself as something other than what s/ he is. Do you see my point Reverend "tradey". You are one that was chosen by god himself, are you not? You tell us of your "calling" and how you " experimented sexually in a variety of ways" but then tell us that "the spirit of god worked in your heart".
Tradesecret wrote: I did not choose God. He chose methe God of the Bible chose me to be his.I experimented sexually in a variety of ways......the spirit of god worked in your heart
So why all of your unnecessary deceit?
You made a great mistake the day you said these words to me when I had only been here a matter of weeks and seriously wanting to discuss scripture, "REVEREND"!
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@Stephen
You may deny it - but you did stalk me. You can give whatever explanation you want. Yet the fact remains - you copied and pasted hundreds of my posts in some database of your own so that you could quote me back whenever you were given the opportunity. That is the very definition of stalking. So deny it all you like - that is my explanation for why I changed my profile.
As for whatever Harikrish - aka Shila - alleged about me in another forum which no longer exists, I also provided explanation for my words.
What you fail to understand or choose to ignore is that any alleged conduct I confessed to was in a time when I was an atheist. It was not in my current condition.
In fact the very fact that such alleged conduct - experimental conduct - took place during an atheistic timeframe - only contrasts even more so where I am now. It demonstrates the Spirit of God working in my heart. In other words - your silly little statement about me being a pastor and a chaplain were not even on the table at that particular depraved time of my life.
In relation to God calling me. That is the point. I did not choose God - he chose me. I would never have chosen God - since I was totally depraved. Total does not mean so evil I was evil - but so totally depraved that I could not save myself. There was no deceit in what I said.
Yes, I did say those mean and nasty things about you. I have apologised and admitted my regret in doing so. I ought not to have said those things - and I have already indicated that on numerous occasions.
It is quite surprising you continue to bring it up - since the rest of the forum has already read and heard my comments previously. It is not like I am hiding it. so the only reason you wish to bring it up is because YOU can't deal with it. That dear Stephen is on your head. I have already made my peace about it. A long time ago.
Tis sad however that for you - it is such a big thing. and for the record. it wasn't just a matter of few weeks - it was quite a long time after you arrived - and only after several conversations in which you were baiting. I eventually bit - and went off. that was my mistake and I admit it. But I won't be sucked into your version of the events - given that you continue to not even grasp the mere wonderment of what happened.
I wish you all the best - but I am not playing your games.
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@Tradesecret
--> @BrotherD.ThomasI have never changed genders. My gender remains the same as it was the day I was born.Of course on the forum page for profiles - the characteristics I have identified have changed numerous times.I have offered as an explanation for this several factors:1. I was being stalked by both Brother Thomas and Stephen.2. I may have been hacked.3. I felt like changing it because I can.4. It is actually a similar tactic that Brother Thomas used - since his profile is a fake profile.Any and All of these factors are individually or taken together sufficient explanation for the change on my profile.And honestly, the repeated attacks - and defamatory abuse by Brother, Stephen and now Shila or harikrish whatever its name is now - demonstrates reasonable and overwhelming excuse for my behaviour.In any event, au revoir
Are you admitting here your gender change was because of external pressure? You have to become a woman to please all your critics.
You gave other reasons for your depravity.
In relation to God calling me. That is the point. I did not choose God - he chose me. I would never have chosen God - since I was totally depraved. Total does not mean so evil I was evil - but so totally depraved that I could not save myself. There was no deceit in what I said.
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@Shila
Shila or Harikrish,
If you had taken the time to read my posts - which your comment seems to refute.
I have never changed genders. My gender remains the same as it was the day I was born.https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2106/post-links/351132
I did indicate however that my profile page has changed a lot. And the reason I changed that was due in part to external pressures inter alia.
My depravity -which incidentally is COMMON to all people is total depravity. It is what flows from the original sin, the fall of man.
In that sense, you and I and Stephen are all born depraved.
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@Tradesecret
but you did stalk me.
Nope. Stop whining, you little tart.
you copied and pasted hundreds of my posts in some database of your own so that you could quote me back whenever you were given the opportunity.
The "data base" that you refer to is here on this forum for anyone to access. It is not private. Your trouble was and still is, is that you told so many lies about yourself in the hope of gaining some imagined status, this may well have worked on some here. But not on me.
So deny it all you like - that is my explanation for why I changed my profile.
I don't care about your profile. I have already said above - that - I personally don't care about your past self-confessed sexual deviancy or what you want to call yourself or the gender you decide to be on any given day.#185
It was always an amusement to me watching you change it so many times as if it would make the blindest bit of difference. That is how thick and dumb you are.
As for whatever Harikrish - aka Shila - alleged about me in another forum which no longer exists, I also provided explanation for my words.
They were your own words. And that site is now defunct. AND I don't care either way. If you were or still are a sexual deviant is none of my business.
What you fail to understand or choose to ignore is that any alleged conduct I confessed to was in a time when I was an atheist. It was not in my current condition.
So? It makes no difference to me. You are a Christian now and being a Christian didn't stop you wading into me when I had only been her a short while, REVEREND.
YOU set the bar so stop whining.
It was not in my current condition.
Yes it sounds like you were in a bad place at one time. All good now though eh?
Although, your Road to Damascus moment didn't stop you denigrating and disparaging "all the theist that you have met". Would you like reminding, Reverend "tradey"? I will see if I can dig it out for you when I have some time. Would you like that?
In fact the very fact that such alleged conduct - experimental conduct - took place during an atheistic timeframe - only contrasts even more so where I am now. It demonstrates the Spirit of God working in my heart.
Good for you. What's your point. Was god working in your heart when you said most of the atheist that you had met were criminal drug addled kiddy fiddlers? Yes Reverend, the lord was certainly walking by your side then wasn't he, Reverend?
In relation to God calling me. That is the point. I did not choose God - he chose me. I would never have chosen God -
Why are you telling me this? I don't care one iota. Bye they way, did god choose you before of after you were taught to "memorise that bible backwards and forwards"?
since I was totally depraved.
More submissions given freely to a forum on the WWW. You just cannot help your stupid self can you. Does your congregation know about your wonderous conversion from the depraved sexual deviant that you once were to the upstanding charity criminal lawyer that you are today? What a beacon of hope and light you must be to them. If it can happen for you it can happen for them eh, Reverend.
you and I and Stephen are all born depraved.
You do enough speaking for yourself, so do not speak for me.
Total does not mean so evil I was evil - but so totally depraved that I could not save myself.
deviant and depraved. My , you were a one wasn't you. How many times do I have to say it!? I don't care.
There was no deceit in what I said.
Reverend, you have done nothing but tell lies about yourself from the day you were born You are a born liar.
Yes, I did say those mean and nasty things about you.
TO me Reverend, To me.
I have apologised and admitted my regret in doing so.
I don't remember that. But as they say - first cut is deepest, Reverend.
I ought not to have said those things -
Correct. There was absolutely no need. And you have the brass neck to cry and whine when I remind you of your own comments. Still the damage was done. No going back is there. You set the bar.
It is quite surprising you continue to bring it up - since the rest of the forum has already read and heard my comments previously.
I will continue to bring them up if and when situation arises especially where they are genuinely warranted. You of all people should know how to use a witness statement to your advantage when the opportunity arises. Or have you forgotten that you are also a lawyer too?
It is not like I am hiding it.
I know! But then you complain about being reminded of that which you offered freely to faceless strangers on a forum on the WWW.
so the only reason you wish to bring it up is because YOU can't deal with it.
No. That will be you that can't deal with your own past bullshit catching up with you and having it being rubbed into your pompous haughty face. Still, you say it doesn't bother you. So stop moaning.
That dear Stephen is on your head.
Nothing is on my head, Reverend. I haven't had to tell lies about myself or parade and flaunt any long list of qualifications I may or may not have. That was all YOUUUU.
and for the record. it wasn't just a matter of few weeks - it was quite a long time after you arrived
Oh well then, I stand corrected, but you set the bar. I didn't.
- given that you continue to not even grasp the mere wonderment of what happened.
Wonderment? Is that what you call it? Seems to me that you are still going through some kind of depression. But no doubt you will snap out of it.....with a few prayers and the Lords help.
but I am not playing your games.
Then simply ignore me. A man of your status and standing shouldn't find that hard to do..
Here's an idea Reverend. Why don't you create a whole new account and come back as a brand-new Reverend and ditch the troubled Reverend "tradey" tradsecret and all the baggage he brought here with him? It's not as if you haven't done it before is it?
But for once in your life, be honest about yourself, 😊
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@Tradesecret
Are you admitting here your gender change was because of external pressure? You have to become a woman to please all your critics.
You gave other reasons for your depravity.
In relation to God calling me. That is the point. I did not choose God - he chose me. I would never have chosen God - since I was totally depraved. Total does not mean so evil I was evil - but so totally depraved that I could not save myself. There was no deceit in what I said.
-> @ShilaShila or Harikrish,If you had taken the time to read my posts - which your comment seems to refute.I have never changed genders. My gender remains the same as it was the day I was born.https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2106/post-links/351132I did indicate however that my profile page has changed a lot. And the reason I changed that was due in part to external pressures inter alia.My depravity -which incidentally is COMMON to all people is total depravity. It is what flows from the original sin, the fall of man.
Here you confirm you are in total depravity. That must include your frequent gender changes.
In that sense, you and I and Stephen are all born depraved.
Like they say, Misery loves company. But the only one showing serious signs of depravity is you Tradesecret.
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@Stephen
The only one doing any whining around here is you. You just don't have the integrity to admit you were stalking. And you don't have the humility to do anything about it - EXCEPT - continue to whine on about how righteous you think you are - and how self - defeating you think I am.
care.
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@Shila
whatever dear Shila, it seems you too failed logic.
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@Tradesecret
The only one doing any whining around here is you.
I can only imagine that you would like to believe that, Reverend tradey". But as usual, you'd be wrong again.
You just don't have the integrity to admit you were stalking.
Oh give over FFS!. what is it you always say? "your comments to me are like water of a ducks back". #36 "Words are words. And that is all they are". #45 Tradesecret:
And you don't have the humility to do anything about it - EXCEPT - continue to whine on about how righteous you think you are
No, Reverend. I am not righteous and neither are you. But I am a good person, until I am accused of being something I am not. Would you like an example of what I mean? Tell me are these the words of a loving , caring benevolent, charitable Christian chaplain?
"Most atheists I know are impractical and airhead. Many end up in prison, for theft and sex related crimes, mostly kiddie crime. Many commit suicide and or are on drugs and alcohol. Not too many get married, or if they do - are on to their 4 or 4th marriage. Many are gay or lesbian. #33"
You certainly set the bar with that beauty, didn't you Reverend.
So aside your other uncalled for insults, I don't like the idea of YOU lumping me or my family - who are all atheists, with "most" atheist that you have met.
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- and how self - defeating you think I am.
That I know you are, is what you should have wrote, Reverend.
but I am not playing your games.
Then simply ignore me.
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@Tradesecret
Are you admitting here your gender change was because of external pressure? You have to become a woman to please all your critics.
You gave other reasons for your depravity.
In relation to God calling me. That is the point. I did not choose God - he chose me. I would never have chosen God - since I was totally depraved. Total does not mean so evil I was evil - but so totally depraved that I could not save myself. There was no deceit in what I said.
-> @ShilaShila or Harikrish,If you had taken the time to read my posts - which your comment seems to refute.I have never changed genders. My gender remains the same as it was the day I was born.https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2106/post-links/351132I did indicate however that my profile page has changed a lot. And the reason I changed that was due in part to external pressures inter alia.My depravity -which incidentally is COMMON to all people is total depravity. It is what flows from the original sin, the fall of man.
Here you confirm you are in total depravity. That must include your frequent gender changes.
In that sense, you and I and Stephen are all born depraved.
Like they say, Misery loves company. But the only one showing serious signs of depravity is you Tradesecret.
whatever dear Shila, it seems you too failed logic.
We are not discussing logic here Reverend Tradesecret. We are pointing to your depravity.
677 days later
The reason the Jews reject Jesus.
1. Judaism affirms that Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies by ushering in an era of universal peace (Isaiah 2:4), building the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26–28), and gathering all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5–6).
2. Judaism deems the worship of any person a form of idolatry, rejecting the claims that Jesus was divine, an intermediary to God, or part of a Trinity.
3. Jews believe the Messiah will be a direct (blood) descendant of King David through Solomon on his father's side and will be born naturally to a husband and wife (Genesis 49:10, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, 33:17; Ezekiel 34:23–24).
4. The whole Christology of the Church - the whole complex of doctrines about the Son of God who died on the Cross to save humanity from sin and death - is incompatible with Judaism, and indeed in discontinuity with the Hebraism that preceded it."
5. "Aside from its belief in Jesus as the Messiah, Christianity has altered many of the most fundamental concepts of Judaism." (Kaplan, Aryeh)
6. "...the doctrine of Christ was and is alien to Jewish religious thought."
7. "For two thousand years, Jews rejected the claim that Jesus fulfilled the messianic prophecies of the Hebrew Bible, as well as the dogmatic claims about him made by the church fathers - that he was born of a virgin, the son of God, part of a divine Trinity, and was resurrected after his death. ... For two thousand years, a central wish of Christianity was to be the object of desire by Jews, whose conversion would demonstrate their acceptance that Jesus has fulfilled their biblical prophecies."
But they believe through circumcision they have established a covenant with God. So did Jesus who was also circumcised.
96 days later
The reason the Jews reject Jesus.1. Judaism affirms that Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies by ushering in an era of universal peace (Isaiah 2:4), building the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26–28), and gathering all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5–6).2. Judaism deems the worship of any person a form of idolatry, rejecting the claims that Jesus was divine, an intermediary to God, or part of a Trinity.3. Jews believe the Messiah will be a direct (blood) descendant of King David through Solomon on his father's side and will be born naturally to a husband and wife (Genesis 49:10, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, 33:17; Ezekiel 34:23–24).4. The whole Christology of the Church - the whole complex of doctrines about the Son of God who died on the Cross to save humanity from sin and death - is incompatible with Judaism, and indeed in discontinuity with the Hebraism that preceded it."5. "Aside from its belief in Jesus as the Messiah, Christianity has altered many of the most fundamental concepts of Judaism." (Kaplan, Aryeh)6. "...the doctrine of Christ was and is alien to Jewish religious thought."7. "For two thousand years, Jews rejected the claim that Jesus fulfilled the messianic prophecies of the Hebrew Bible, as well as the dogmatic claims about him made by the church fathers - that he was born of a virgin, the son of God, part of a divine Trinity, and was resurrected after his death. ... For two thousand years, a central wish of Christianity was to be the object of desire by Jews, whose conversion would demonstrate their acceptance that Jesus has fulfilled their biblical prophecies."But they believe through circumcision they have established a covenant with God. So did Jesus who was also circumcised.
Will Jews be saved if they don't believe in Jesus?
Does being Jewish by itself automatically grant a Jew salvation? Only by placing faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ may any human being receive God's forgiveness. This is true for Gentiles and Jews, so even a Jew must possess faith in Jesus to receive eternal life.
What does the Bible say about Israel rejecting Jesus?
Second, the rejection of the Messiah by a large portion of Israel had been prophesied in the Old Testament (Rom. 9:19-29). This meant that Jewish unbelief should not have been unexpected. Paul quotes from Isaiah 10:22-23 and 1:9 to show that only a remnant of the nation would be saved.
8 days later
The one teaching by Jesus that turned Jews against Jesus which went against their commandment to honour their parents.
Exodus 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you
The Jesus who said "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth; I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother" (Matthew 10:34-37) is not a Jesus whom I can accept as a moral model. The statement is consistent, however, with the Jesus of Luke 14:26, who says, "If any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
15 days later
Unrefuted summary of Jesus by Harikrish.
Scriptural verses that declared Jesus a demon possessed lunatic.
John 10:20 Many of them said, "He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?"
Mark 3:21 when his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, "He is out of his mind."
Jesus was deluded and believed God spoke through him.
John 12:49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.
But when the people listened to the words he spoke they did not understand him, even his disciples struggled to understand him. Jesus had to explain to them in secret what he was saying in his parables. But he explained with more parables which suggests God was also incoherent and inarticulate and failed to communicate through Jesus. But we know God turned Moses who was slow in speech and mind into a leader and messenger. The problem was Jesus not God.
Mark 4:34 He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.
Jesus was a notorious liar. Even John the Baptist expressed his doubts to Jesus and asked Jesus if he was really the promised one.
Jesus lied when he said John the Baptist was Elijah. John denied he was Elijah.
Here are the scriptures to back my claims. Jesus said John was Elijah, John denies he is Elijah.
Matthew 11:14
And if you are willing to accept what I say, he is Elijah, the one the prophets said would come.
In John 1:6"8 and John 1:19"28, John the Baptist denies he is Elijah. Yet in Matthew 17:9"13, Jesus implies that he was. Isn't this a contradiction?
John 1:21"They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?"
He said, "I am not."
"Are you the Prophet?"
He answered, "No."
John expresses doubts Jesus is the promised one.
Matthew 11:2"When John, who was in prison, heard about the deeds of the Messiah, he sent his disciples 3"to ask him, "Are you the one who is to come, or should we expect someone else?"
Jesus expresses his own doubts on the cross.
Matthew 27:46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").
We know Jesus was crucified for his blasphemous lies.
Jesus did not fulfill any prophesies. By his own account he did not come to change the laws of the prophets. He proved he was subjected to the laws even in his life and thereby validating the Mosaic law given to the Jews by God.
According to the Jewish law:
Deuteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."
It is clear Jesus did not fulfill the prophesies. Instead, He was subjected to the law and put to death as demanded of false prophets according to Mosaic law.
Jesus lied that he was to be sacrificed.
Human sacrifice was forbidden by God. So Jesus was not sacrificed.
Many argue Jesus's death was prophesied. But even Jesus's prophesies were not fulfilled.
1. Matthew 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Jesus never fulfilled that promise.
2. Matthew 24:34
Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
2000 years have passed and many generation have gone by yet his promise remains unfulfilled.
Jesus was a liar and a lunatic before and after his death. Unfortunately he could only be crucified once.
So why are Christians turning God into a liar and lunatic or turning a liar and lunatic into a God?
As a Vedantist raised in the Vedantuc tradition and trained in the reading of esoteric scriptures, Christian Theology and Islamic fundamentalist, I am not at liberty to speculate outside of scriptures. And the scriptures are clear that Jesus was tried, convicted and put to death for his blasphemous lies and lunacy.
So why are Christians perpetrating the delusions of a Jewish rabbi who was put to death for his delusional blasphemous lies?
We have to turn to our experts in tbe field of human behaviour. As a student of the behavioural sciences (CBT) I have also explored a diagnostic approach.
Kathleen Taylor, Neuroscientist, Says Religious Fundamentalism Could Be Treated As A Mental Illness - Huffington Post
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@Shila
Merry Christmas!------wink,wink,wink
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@FLRW
Merry Christmas!------wink,wink,wink
Thank you for your blinking wishes.
8 days later
The Madness of King Jesus (2010)[14] that Pilate and other Romans regarded Jesus as an insane lunatic.[8]According to the Gospels, Jesus was presented to Pilate and sentenced to death as a royal pretender, but the standard Roman procedure was the prosecution and execution of would-be insurgents with their leaders. Therefore, to suggest that Jesus was put to death by the Roman authorities as some kind of royal pretender does not explain sufficiently why he was executed, but his disciples were not.[8]Jean Meslier (1664–1729) had similar thoughts in the 18th century. In chapters 33 and 34 of his Testament, argues that Jesus "was really a madman, a fanatic" (étoit véritablement un fou, un insensé, un fanatique).
What mental issues did Jesus have?
Mental health of Jesus - Wikipedia
According to the authors, in the case of Jesus, it could have been: paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar and schizoaffective disorders. They hypothesized that Jesus may have sought death through "suicide-by-proxy" (indirect suicide).
How did Jesus suffer mentally?
First of all, he was abandoned by his close friends—the 11. He already must have felt the pain of Judas's betrayal. And the 11 who promised to be with him abandoned him when he was arrested. And second, he faced the greatest emotional pain anyone could face—when God the Father abandoned him.
23 days later
Scriptural verses that declared Jesus a demon possessed lunatic.
John 10:20 Many of them said, "He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?"
Mark 3:21 when his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, "He is out of his mind."
Jesus was deluded and believed God spoke through him.
John 12:49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.
But when the people listened to the words he spoke they did not understand him, even his disciples struggled to understand him. Jesus had to explain to them in secret what he was saying in his parables. But he explained with more parables which suggests God was also incoherent and inarticulate and failed to communicate through Jesus. But we know God turned Moses who was slow in speech and mind into a leader and messenger. The problem was Jesus not God.
Mark 4:34 He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.
Jesus was a notorious liar. Even John the Baptist expressed his doubts to Jesus and asked Jesus if he was really the promised one.
Jesus lied when he said John the Baptist was Elijah. John denied he was Elijah.
Here are the scriptures to back my claims. Jesus said John was Elijah, John denies he is Elijah.
Matthew 11:14
And if you are willing to accept what I say, he is Elijah, the one the prophets said would come.
In John 1:6"8 and John 1:19"28, John the Baptist denies he is Elijah. Yet in Matthew 17:9"13, Jesus implies that he was. Isn't this a contradiction?
John 1:21"They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?"
He said, "I am not."
"Are you the Prophet?"
He answered, "No."
John expresses doubts Jesus is the promised one.
Matthew 11:2"When John, who was in prison, heard about the deeds of the Messiah, he sent his disciples 3"to ask him, "Are you the one who is to come, or should we expect someone else?"
Jesus expresses his own doubts on the cross.
Matthew 27:46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").
We know Jesus was crucified for his blasphemous lies.
Jesus did not fulfill any prophesies. By his own account he did not come to change the laws of the prophets. He proved he was subjected to the laws even in his life and thereby validating the Mosaic law given to the Jews by God.
According to the Jewish law:
Deuteronomy 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."
It is clear Jesus did not fulfill the prophesies. Instead, He was subjected to the law and put to death as demanded of false prophets according to Mosaic law.
Jesus lied that he was to be sacrificed.
Human sacrifice was forbidden by God. So Jesus was not sacrificed.
Many argue Jesus's death was prophesied. But even Jesus's prophesies were not fulfilled.
1. Matthew 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Jesus never fulfilled that promise.
2. Matthew 24:34
Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
2000 years have passed and many generation have gone by yet his promise remains unfulfilled.
Jesus was a liar and a lunatic before and after his death. Unfortunately he could only be crucified once.
So why are Christians turning God into a liar and lunatic or turning a liar and lunatic into a God?
As a Vedantist raised in the Vedantuc tradition and trained in the reading of esoteric scriptures, Christian Theology and Islamic fundamentalist, I am not at liberty to speculate outside of scriptures. And the scriptures are clear that Jesus was tried, convicted and put to death for his blasphemous lies and lunacy.
So why are Christians perpetrating the delusions of a Jewish rabbi who was put to death for his delusional blasphemous lies?
We have to turn to our experts in tbe field of human behaviour. As a student of the behavioural sciences (CBT) I have also explored a diagnostic approach.
Kathleen Taylor, Neuroscientist, Says Religious Fundamentalism Could Be Treated As A Mental Illness - Huffington Post