God is good is an assumption

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Question just one of his contentions and he accuses you of questioning any and all of the others and abandons the claim you have contested.
He is completely dishonest.

I figured which is why I want him to prove God exists yet he is not doing that. I thought a person who believes in God surely would have proof of its existence. It is certainly a lot to think for someone to have a lifetime commitment to something based on a guess. In theory yeah I think that would happen but in the real world no people just believe God exists without proof. He thinks simply saying claims or saying how I am wrong is proof but it isn't. 
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Look above. 
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Yeah he's not the sharpest donut in the box.
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There is no proof for any gods. To continue to come to religious forums and demand it is trolling. So every atheists is a troll. There are professors and critics making a living discussing fiction books with not a one ever saying prove it. Morons not being able to discuss religion cause if it's not true for them it's false are trolls. 
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There is no proof for any gods.
And yet people are stupid and scared enough to believe in them.


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Wrong in what sense? 

I that "god " is not good. as per  the assumption that he is good.FFS can you not read your own fkn writing.
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He is such an angry nonentity
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I that "god " is not good. as per  the assumption that he is good.FFS can you not read your own fkn writing.
It is not my fault I am not clearly understanding what you are saying. Even here what are you even saying?
"I that "god is not that good. as per  the assumption that he is good."
Then you insult me as if I'm the problem when you are the one who doesn't clearly state what you mean. 

Do you want to try saying this again or what? 


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Do you want to try saying this again or what? 
 No. You can not only understand what you yourself have wrote , you cannot keep up with what you wrote and the responses to it. 

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No. You can not only understand what you yourself have wrote , you cannot keep up with what you wrote and the responses to it. 
Let me try to explain the grievance I have with what you said:
I that "god " is not good. as per  the assumption that he is good.FFS can you not read your own fkn writing.
What do you mean by I?
Why do you have a full stop between good and as?
Why can't you simply make sure your sentences make sense before you post it or you know edit it afterwards?

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You don't understand the evidence.
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@TheRealNihilist
You seem to think it is possible for there to be reality if nothing is ultimately real. If there is no ultimate reality, nothing is real. Your experience soundly disproves this, as there is clearly some form of reality.


The only possible conclusion is that The Ultimate Reality exists, and that is what is meant by God.


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You don't understand the evidence.
I go by what is accepted as evidence as in how we derive scientific fact not your lack of evidence under what I consider evidence.
You seem to think it is possible for there to be reality if nothing is ultimately real. If there is no ultimate reality, nothing is real. Your experience soundly disproves this, as there is clearly some form of reality.
This is under your definition that God is ultimate reality. Not what I am going by. I have the position that God you have yet to prove is different from reality.
The only possible conclusion is that The Ultimate Reality exists, and that is what is meant by God.
An unsubstantial conclusion while also not agreeing upon the definitions I laid out. 
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So you are commiting the logical fallacies of invincible ignorance and strawman.




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You don't understand religion so quit guessing why people engage in it. Moron.
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So you are commiting the logical fallacies of invincible ignorance and strawman.
In order for me to commit invincible ignorance you would require to give evidence yet you don't have any and have been using your very own definitions instead of what I accepted. Not a straw-man because you are using different definitions from me and circular logic is not evidence even if I accept your definitions.

Do you have an actual contention are you going to carry on claiming false fallacies on top of not providing evidence? 
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You don't understand the evidence, and since you are a fool you dismiss it instead of trying to understand it.

Also, you are insisting that I debate under your defining of terms, which I don't agree with. Your definition of god has nothing to do with my God.

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@Mopac
You don't understand the evidence, and since you are a fool you dismiss it instead of trying to understand it.
You don't know what evidence is. I have clearly shown on this site what is evidence by providing links that are credible yet you can't do the same. The very thing that keeps you going, gives you the motivation to carry on living your life and yet you can't justify it with evidence? Weird how faulty your ground is when the Religion you sponsor can't compete with the currently accepted societal norms.
Also, you are insisting that I debate under your defining of terms, which I don't agree with. Your definition of god has nothing to do with my God.
Your God is clearly laid it in my definition. The one that you came up with was your attempt at an answer to my question but failed. You engage in circular logic and can't attempt to simply provide evidence for the very claim I am asking instead pivoting. 
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I'm not interested in arguing fruitlessly. That seems to be what you like doing. I'm not interested.

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I'm not interested in arguing fruitlessly. That seems to be what you like doing. I'm not interested.
No evidence. Circular logic because of your definitions and that is what you call 'evidence'. This wasn't interesting. 
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"Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him."



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It seens the Orthodox lot are not to fussed on any matters of clarification.

I'm thinking that the doxies are taught things like this ultimate reality  means God to simply make things like God is the father / son  ▪and the holy spirit straight foward.
It makes this thing called the holy trinity the NORM. 

Soooooooooooo lets refresh. 
For young kids to be able to grasp and feel somewhat at ease and NOT TO QUESTION THINGS. 
If they are taught " The ultimate Reality " is God. 
It makes the fact to kids especially , The fact that. 

There is only ONE true God, And that one true God kids issssssssssss.

The Father  /  The Son  / and a HOLY SPIRIT.  One God

Then if the kids aint baffled enough, they bloody well will be once they realize Jesus is and or was God 

Once the poor little kids feeble minds have absorb this and they except these things as FACTS. 
Well
Well they are yours. 



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The reason why you don't get it is because instead of respecting the mystery and seeking to find out the truth, you mock it.

This is how our faith is closed off to those who take themselves as being wise, making them fools. This is how God resists the proud and gives grsce to the humble.

It is not for you to know these things, because you are an enemy of the faith by your own choosing.


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Correct.
I'll try curving this pal. 
Good day. 




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"Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him."
So basically you can't actually provide evidence for your God so now your went on some old English rants. Okay.


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It's Proverbs 26:12.

I suppose a lot of dumb believers cheer themselves up by imagining they know something clever people don't get.
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I suppose a lot of dumb believers cheer themselves up by imagining they know something clever people don't get.
I kind of used it as a general term because then it would encompass the Bible and how people talked back in the day. Should have just copied the quote to Google or maybe guessed the very thing he cares about the most would be where he would have gotten that quote.

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It's mildly interesting that the bible calls disbelievers fools.   There is also the more usually quoted line found in Psalm 14 (and the almost identical Ps53)  "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.".

There were disbelievers back then!  As disbelievers tended to be quite bright the Priests had to say to the people 'They aren't so clever - in fact they are fools!  You are the clever ones for believing in God!'

Clearly nothing much has changed about that for 4 or 5 thousand years.   Most Christians don't like their assumptions challenged.


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Hey stupid fucking atheists. Proof is not required to have a right to faith. Get a clue bigots.