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If there was revrrence here, it might not be the shitfest you describe it as being.
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@Mopac
That would be very convenient if in theory you actually do not have any compelling arguments.

I'm not saying you don't have any but I am saying that if you don't share any it is functionally the same as if you have none.
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I don't have any compelling arguments for you. I also reject that you are a reasonable person.

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So what is it that is going to happen? Is it what god knows?
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@Mopac
I don't have any compelling arguments for you
Thank you for clarifying.
I also reject that you are a reasonable person.
So just to get this straight you expect me to believe you when you have no compelling arguments but I am the irrational one?
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Whatever happens, God knows.

And though God knows what we are going to choose, God did not dictate what we end up choosing. We still make choices. For God this is not a difficult thing.


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@secularmerlin
I don't expect you to believe me, no. I also see it ss a futile endeavor to appeal to the reason of the unreasonable.

The reason I have no compelling arguments for you is because I see you as an unreasonable person. After all, by rejecting what I mean by my terms, you are instead defining the language I use. In doing so, you are not only acting unreasonable, but you are behaving shamefully haughty.

And so your skepticism is not reasonable. To believe me would be reasonable. If you don't believe me, you are at a road block and won't learn anything. If you believe me, you will come to understand. As it stands, you don't understand, and you won't. You won't because you lack charity, which is love, and humility, which necessitates admitting that you don't understand and have a willingness to learn.

If you are really trying to learn, you will ask questions to clarify, not to dispute, undermine, or ask for evidence for things you don't even know what you are adking evidence for.







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@Mopac
Really you just aren't very exact in your definitions. Is Truth a being or just a set of facts? The former has not been demonstrated and the latter us just a definitional tautology. I have no objection to the second it is only the first that you have failed to demonstrate. Except that I don't really understand what you mean by truth right Mopac? And that is not your fault is it? I mean it's not as if you are the one explaining it or anything.
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@secularmerlin
Definition of being courtesy merriam-webster...
"the quality or state of having existence"


So you are in doubt about The Truth existing?

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Atheism is nihilism, as I have always maintained.
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I am in doubt that truth is contingent on a being of any kind.
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@secularmerlin
It is right to say that God is not contingent, but everything is contingent on God.


The Truth, The Ultimate Reality, is God.

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@Mopac
True things would still be true if no god(s) exist. This includes your god Mopac.

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@Mopac
True things would still be true if no god(s) exist. This includes your god Mopac.

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@secularmerlin
Maintaining your straw man with a straight face as usual I see.

I think we are done here, Mr pseudo logic.


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My God is Truth.


That isn't codeword for "not truth"


And like The Truth, you can kill it in the flesh, but you can't kill its spirit. It will rise again in the flesh.


You can't kill The Truth.



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@Mopac
It's only a straw man if I make yoir argument for you. If you make an argument and I contest that argument that isnt a straw man (don't believe me? Look it up)it's just an argument.
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@Mopac
An example of a straw man would be if one bloke says to another "when you say there is no god you are really saying there is no truth" even when that is clearly not what has been said. Hopefully this example clears this up for you a bit.
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@secularmerlin
Your argument is to lie.



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Oh Mopac your so silly.
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@secularmerlin
The Truth is God.


If you don't accept this, you aren't talking about the same thing as me.


So you have no argument except to be a liar.

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@Mopac
I agree that when we say truth we mean something different. You mean many things which we cannot be certain are true. At the least you have nit deminstrated any of them as true.
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@secularmerlin
I mean The Truth. The Ultimate Reality.


You are a liar.


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@Mopac
You mean a figure in a bronze age book.
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@secularmerlin
You have no idea what you are talking about. 
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I mean what I say.
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@Mopac
You have yet to tell me plainly what we are talking about. 
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@secularmerlin
The Ultimate Reality.

Exactly what that means. What that Is.
That is God.

Quit lying.


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Your definition is inconsistent. Sometimes it is whayever reality is and sometimes it is a specific thing reality must be. Decide which you mean and get back to me.

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@secularmerlin
You have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you would if you were honest.