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@Vader
I'll wait on Lunatic and Wylted to claim before discussing the theme on length. Wylted is around, so I say we pressure him for his character.
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Nomination:
Vader (6/6) [HAMMER]: Pie, WF, Savant, Owen, Casey, Earth
Vader has officially been nominated.
Reminder: The day will end either at the deadline or when both a nomination and elimination have been achieved.
Elimination:
Earth (1/6): Wylted
Wylted (1/6): Owen
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@Owen_T
I am topicality
Also I guess nominate savant. I don't know who is left though so just start from bottom of list provided in OP and go up to the first person that hasn't gone yet if I am wrong
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@WyIted
Luna is the last person to not char claim
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@Lunatic
Tick tock
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@Owen_T
I don't know whether to town read this or consider it incredibly scummy. I'm leaning towards the ladder.
Just like me he said prior to this game activity level and interest would be lower than normal. I doubt that part is affiliation indicative
I guess whiteflame has a more technical knowledge of debate than most of us and so hopefully he can start peculating on theme splits. Not sure if anyone else or who else does though.
Just from what I noticed of whiteflame scum play. He is entirely too honest as scum so regardless of affiliation he would probably be foolish enough to be honest about his thoughts on theme split either way, so we can likely trust them
This is off topic but I feel like we can be more honest here. There is likely 3 or 4 people that need banned on the site because of how much they lower the quality of the site.
Can anyone tell me if this kid is trolling or genuinely retarded. And keep in mind every post he makes flips between strawmanning typical conservative arguments to straw manning typical liberal arguments.
Site retention is a real thing and while this shit might get buried on a larger forum it's front and center here and nobody wants to see it.
Best Korea lowers the average IQ on the site as does shila and there are more members that post infrequently enough where it doesn't matter too much but I have to ask what are we trying to accomplish here.
Me: Why do I care? I'm a capitalist; I want to save money (and if that means getting rid of expensive appeals, then so be it). My money is more valuable to me than stranger's lives (even if they're innocent). I don't care if they're black. I don't care if they're white.
Let's ignore the fact this idiot doesn't know what a capitalist is, or a socialist for that matter. Does this sound like an argument that took a lot of thought or effort and needed to be made into a thread?
Either you agree with me or you're a socialist. I'm fine with either option; but be honest and upfront. I'm willing to have innocent people get killed to save money (because I'm a capitalist). Disagreeing with that is inheritely socialist because they value human life way more than I do relative to money.
So capitalist equals fiscally conservative and socialist equals valuing human life over money?
Before you think you can educate this guy on what a capitalist or socialist us, realize that he won't learn anything and he will continue to make stupid strawman arguments based on the same misunderstandings over and over.
He is either a retard and should be banned or a troll and should also be banned from the site or at least prevented from creating threads
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@WyIted
I used to do policy debate (I hated it)
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@WyIted
Weren't you the one that advocated for him to hold a position as the president lol?
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@Vader
From what I have seen it looks like it could be annoying. I do watch debates often but the more loose formatting seems more fair on stuff meant for viewers. The drawback is it leans heavier on rhetoric but its more entertaining and seems like it would be more fun to engage in than what I have seen at debate tournaments.
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@Vader
Did I advocate for that? Was he under a different user name when I advocates for that?
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@WyIted
Yeah you are 100% right. Hence why I hated it. It was all a rhetoric battle and to be honest could be easily meta'd. If you created an argument that was so batshit absurd crazy that was in the shape of the K that no team had answers too, then that team could win. It was pure rhetoric and sources battle versus the quality of the sources and how well you actually debated. It just highlighted key points in articles that would read and how fast. I hated it and prefered the model UN way of debating as it relied you to debate in a strucutred manner without having to spread and spout random arguments
His last 3 threads are on the front page by the way and you can see genius takes such as
"Let's annex Canada to increase GDP and population"
Or
"RFK should take the MMR vaccine"
Keep in mind that RFK most likely had the MMR vaccine when he was 5 and it's good for life
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@WyIted
No he was Best.Korea when you wanted him to be a part of your team
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@Vader
The solution is honestly to bring in judges who don't understand debate at all and only they get to judge. It would fix all of that, if the debate community was interested in fixing that anyway
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@Vader
Yes I think a role that rewarded him for support and kept him away from anything important while simultaneously making him feel important and useful.
He was good at advertising for me which helped me win. He probably secured 3 or more votes which was huge TBH
I am "Weighing" A debate strategy why you argue why your impact is more important than your opponents.
Vader - Solvency - Strategist
Savant - Disclosure - ???
Whiteflame - Theory - ???
Casey - Kritiks- ???
Pie - Framework - ???
Bullish - Spreading - ???
Earth - Ballot - ???
Owen - CrossEx - ???
Wylted - Topicality - ???
Lunatic - Weighing - ???
thank fuck my char doesn't stand out anymore
So just off the top of my head, I see this:
Savant - Disclosure - ???
Earth - Ballot - ???
Disclosure and Ballot are pretty similar
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@ILikePie5
Ballot has to be scum. It doesn't fit the theme of debate theory/theories.
Unvote VTL earth
Earth and Owen are scum. Game solved. Let's just go through the motions now
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@ILikePie5
Just from a quick Google. Disclosing is disclosing your arguments to the other team and ballots is literally just voting.
Luna's role also stands out. Such a weird part of the debate that we don't see but Pie put a good alternative for themes that would make sense
Bullish and Luna are both ways to present your arguments as well
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@WyIted
Just from what I noticed of whiteflame scum play. He is entirely too honest as scum so regardless of affiliation he would probably be foolish enough to be honest about his thoughts on theme split either way, so we can likely trust them
Honestly, I kind of love that as your perception of my scum meta, whether true or not. It does feel very me, or at least how I present myself. I'll type up my thoughts on the theme, hold on a bit.
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@Lunatic
lets buddy