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@zedvictor4
The other alternative is, Trump dies soon.
Let us hope, so we can get started early on the JD Vance dynasty. Maga squared.
The other alternative is, Trump dies soon.
And the US is Canada's arse.
The other alternative is, Trump dies soon.
Having the US fall by annexing Canada?
so imagine his delight as he watches our collective IQ sink to the bottom of the Potomac.I don't know about your IQ, but mine is 142.
We are a country now that can't even agree on who won the prior electionIt was Biden.
I've had the belief for about a decade, but Trump allowed me to express it with weight behind it.
Without him giving voice to and normalizing the stupidest people among us and the stupidest ideas imaginable, none of these things are even up for discission.If you don't like debating ideas, then get off of DART.
Canada as a whole isn’t just more leftist than the US, they’re also less libertarian.
Canada is a red and white hat.
Having the US fall because it is so incompetent it can't even figure out what it should be focusing on. We have real world problems we could be addressing. Whether we should be annexing Canada is not one of them.
Great, now use that 142 to Google the definition of "collective".
Great, now tell the president and the 70 million Americans he seems to have convinced otherwise.
And while you might think annexing Canada is a great idea and are glad Trump is empowering you, he's also empowering conspiracy theorists, racists, and ignoramuses.
Are you not bothered that half the country actually believes that election was stolen? And do you really believe that would be the case if not for Trump?
Have you seen any of my posts on this site? What on earth makes you think I don't like debating ideas?
none of these things are even up for discission.
I don't like the fact that all there is to debate are stupid ideas.
He is by far the most prolific liar in the history of American politics, yet they believe he's the real truth teller.
He's the most thin skinned child we have ever seen and yet they think he's the embodiment of strength and manlihood.
He's a literal criminal and they think he's a victim.
He's an autocrat who they think is here to save our democracy.
He's a Manhatten billionaire and they think he's the voice of the little guy.
I had no intention of going on that long but it all kept coming to my head because it runs so deep. That's what is stopping or ability to debate. We used to be able to work on algebra, now we're back to 2+2. It's appalling.
Solving a political problem is easy if you want to. For example, there is no such thing as, trying to "end LGBT hate laws". You either do it by signing some documents or you don't.
Great, now use that 142 to Google the definition of "collective".Well why is the IQ of America falling?
I'm as bothered with election deniers as I am with everyone dying. It sucks that it's reality, but what you gonna do?
What do you think would be the good ideas to debate about?
Trump is a liar; so is every politician. Trump might do it the most, but if I say, "1 lie is too much", then I exclude every politician. The alternative is saying, "X lies are too much" and X will be arbitrary.
He's an autocrat who they think is here to save our democracy.I think we will have elections in 2028 whether Harris or Trump was in office. To terminate the constitution, you need 3/4 of the states, and Trump doesn't have that.
Well, keep in mind, you've seen me criticize Trump enough here, you know I'm at the algebra stage and not the 2+2 stage.
Now, what would be wrong with annexing Canada?
When you are a democracy and you have those pesky rules in place to ensure adherence to a constitution and the protection of rights for all, it's gets far more complicated.
Because we as a society do not have the checks in place anymore to ensure those who have a platform to reach millions of people know what they're talking about.
Not empower the people out there spreading this nonsense.
What do you think would be the good ideas to debate about?How we're going to bring down the price of groceries. How we're going to reverse the wealth gap trend where now 80% of this country's population are scrapping over 7% of the country's wealth. What our immigration *laws* should look like, etc.Not whether we should annex Canada, or how we're going to get rid of all this [non-existent] voter fraud.
The fact that the line we draw on what's "too much" is arbitrary doesn't mean we don't draw a line and it certainly doesn't mean we pretend that someone who lies more isn't worse than someone who lies less.
And no, it's not "Trump might do it the most" it's that Trump is in am entirely different category of lying than anything we've ever seen.
They dropped the federal charges, and that's only because he won the election.
This video is old but might help.
Would you have a problem of Russia made us part of the Russian federation against our will?
How does one become an actual dictator in America? Or is that just more "storytime with DoubleR?"
Not really. How hard was it for states to put in mask mandates in 202 if the state was MA (a state that wanted them)? Very easy.
Because we as a society do not have the checks in place anymore to ensure those who have a platform to reach millions of people know what they're talking about.So what's your solution?
I would be unsurprised if he did it the most, but how much compared to other politicians annually. You would also have to measure for intensity as well (which is very arbitrary). Is it worse to say the vaccines cause autism or no state in the US legalizes elective 9 month pregnancy abortion? The left winger would say #1, the right winger would say #2.
They dropped the federal charges, and that's only because he won the election.Why would this be relevant unless it's a concession?
Trump isn't the only on that attacks the press and courts. The left does this with Fox News and the Supreme Court on Roe.
the Russian federation against our will?Yes because we don't speak Russian.
The fact that you talk about Trump's lying as "well maybe he's worse" is mind boggling.Like I said earlier, Trump's lying is on a whole new level from anything we've ever seen. He lies about everything from big things to silly things, and he does it with not only no commitment to reality but not even a commitment to consistency. Sam Harris had probably the best takes on this I've heard which is that he distinguished Trump as being not a liar, but a bullshitter. The former sounds worse, but the latter is actually way worse.A liar is someone trying to convince you what they're saying is true. That takes work and failure leads to consequences for that person. To avoid those consequences the liar has to work within the truth. Bullshiting is about destroying the very concept of truth, it's about asserting yourself as being impervious to it and empowering your followers to do the same.Lying tends to contain itself only to the issue at hand. Bullshiting, especially when done in this fashion as Trump does, destroys our ability to even have a conversation with each other. And it might sound the way I've described it like bullshiting leads to less deciept because it's out there in the open but that's not true at all. Once the very concept of respecting the truth is gone people are more free to say whatever they want whether it's true or not so people don't even know who to listen to anymore and everyone becomes less and mis educated.There is no one in American politics like Trump. There is no comparison.
Maybe don't use the word "dictator" so flippantly then. It makes you sound unhinged and radical when every other word you use is abject hyperbole.Left wing media is paying dearly for 8 straight years of "the worst thing ever"Don't fall into the same habit if you don't want to alienate people.
Maybe don't use the word "dictator" so flippantly then.
If there's widespread agreement then it's not a problem in need of being solved.
Kids should be taught epistemology and critical thinking in school. That would go a long way but republicans stand in opposition to that. Gee I wonder why.
Like I said earlier, Trump's lying is on a whole new level from anything we've ever seen. He lies about everything from big things to silly things, and he does it with not only no commitment to reality but not even a commitment to consistency.
Lying tends to contain itself only to the issue at hand. Bullshiting, especially when done in this fashion as Trump does, destroys our ability to even have a conversation with each other. And it might sound the way I've described it like bullshiting leads to less deciept because it's out there in the open but that's not true at all. Once the very concept of respecting the truth is gone people are more free to say whatever they want whether it's true or not so people don't even know who to listen to anymore and everyone becomes less and mis educated.
What do you mean? I called him a criminal and you replied asking didn't they drop the charges, the implication being that if they dropped the charges he's not a criminal. So to that point the reason they dropped the charges matters.
The left doesn't call the free press the enemy of the American people nor does the left reflexively dismiss any verdict they don't like as the product of corruption or partisan bias without any thought the way Trump does.
the Russian federation against our will?Yes because we don't speak Russian.Now you're just not being serious.
If there's widespread agreement then it's not a problem in need of being solved.How widespread are you talking about?
How many lies did Trump do vs the generic politician in a 4 year term?
Trump probably did it more, but how many lies is too many lies?
I don't think Obama ever went to bullshit level degeneracy.
That's why Trump's lies are a whole different category of worse.
Trump has also been accused of making America great again.
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Enough to enact the solution.
The Washington Post tracked it at over 30k lies over the 4 year term. We don't know exactly how that compares to other politicians because no politician has ever lied so much to the point where anyone needed to track their count.
Someone who lies about everything, including the most obvious things is either completely disconnected from reality (a polite way of saying they're crazy) or they simply do not value the concept of truth itself.
The former is like playing basketball with someone who swipes at your arm and accepts when you call foul. That person you can play a game with. Trump is like someone who tackles you like he's playing football, then when you call foul he pretends there's no such thing as fouls and berates you for being a pussy. No basketball game there is possible.
How do you define, "libertarian"? Weed is legal federally in Canada (as is blue America). Canada is a knock off of blue America basically.
Enough to enact the solution.Context: MA doing mask mandates in 2020. There may have been 90% consensus for it; but there are 90% agreement on a lot of issues that aren't law. I would assume that if you ask people, "Should a r@pist be allowed to sue their victim for child custody", then I would think virtually everyone would say, "No!". But it's the law in 20 states I think.
Trump saying we should annex Canada is not the same thing as him saying any election he loses is stolen.
or his utter lack of concern for global stability.
I hope China annexes the USA and makes me a District Manager.