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My boss is frail and elderly so off chance he dies and I get a promotion opportunity. 

That's what boomers get for refusing to retire and leaving us with all the shitty jobs
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@WyIted
My boss is frail and elderly so off chance he dies and I get a promotion opportunity. 

That's what boomers get for refusing to retire and leaving us with all the shitty jobs
Weaponizing your illness to get a promotion? I see no problems here.
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I also literally self identified as trans because I have that option at work and so DEI promotion is on the table if the die promotion fails.

As a transgender I get surveys to fill out in my email so the company can also better accommodate me, so I get to speak on behalf of the trans community
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My bosses still dead name me though
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@Mharman
Last thing: Yes, you should tell everything. You will get lynched without doing so, like it or not. You are obviously town to yourself, but to the rest of town. Including me. I will say that I am torn between you and Vader and will have a better idea in the morning. I suppose I should think whether or not it’s a false dichotomy, but it’s gonna be hard to do so if one of you has given me a reason for a scumread. Something like refusing to full claim would be an example.
Much as I do understand the pushback against two killing roles being in the game, at least to some degree, I don't really understand what would make this a tough decision if that's where you're coming from. I'm not sold on the Banana lynch myself, but I don't see a world in which Vader is scum here. So much of what he's done would have to be carefully planted ahead of time and executed in a very particular way. Couple that with the notion that scum would get an extra NK that activates on voting and I just don't buy it. At least Banana's Town Insurgent claim is a one-off that activates on death, and we've seen plenty of scum bombs that function in a similar capacity. Hell, been one myself.
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@Greyparrot
we should kill barney
Setting aside my own read on his behavior, I'd like to know where this is coming from. Is it just frustration with his behavior this DP or are you actively scumreading him?

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@iamanabanana
Vader is soooo scummy it hurts
Banana, you've called out Vader as scummy multiple times and I'd really like to understand the thinking here. Do you think he's lying about his role, or that scum have been given a role that grants them a potential shot every NP? I agree that his role makes the balance in this game wonky, but I can't see a world in which WyIted gives scum this kind of role.
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I'm in favor of activating Vader's powers (him doing nothing tonight would prove less than if he does something), so let's get a couple people on his wagon. Afterward we can all unvote.
Looks like we're at two votes. I'm fine giving him the shot.

VTL Vader

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@WyIted
I also literally self identified as trans because I have that option at work and so DEI promotion is on the table if the die promotion fails.

As a transgender I get surveys to fill out in my email so the company can also better accommodate me, so I get to speak on behalf of the trans community
Amen brother (sister?).
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So it's clear that Barney wants me to get my role again in the NP. I don't think that is what town really wants at this point and tbh, I think I kind of FoS that. Sure I probably hit scum last DP, but the guarantee I hit scum again is pretty low. The balance of 3P makes the game some weird variant of potentially a 9v3v1v1 and that may not even be the case, in fact I have no clue

Right now the assumption (unless anyone claims anything different) the game is 8v2v1 OR 7v3v1 depending on what you think Savant is. The odds of hitting scum are still relatively low from what I am seeing
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So it's clear that Barney wants me to get my role again in the NP. I don't think that is what town really wants at this point and tbh, I think I kind of FoS that. Sure I probably hit scum last DP, but the guarantee I hit scum again is pretty low. The balance of 3P makes the game some weird variant of potentially a 9v3v1v1 and that may not even be the case, in fact I have no clue

Right now the assumption (unless anyone claims anything different) the game is 8v2v1 OR 7v3v1 depending on what you think Savant is. The odds of hitting scum are still relatively low from what I am seeing
From where I'm sitting, I at least trust you to make the call. You've got a lot of reads to work with already and might have more by the end of the DP, but I understand the cautious approach as well.
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@whiteflame
Yeah. I think I have an idea of who is scum but I am also have had a lot of shifting reads this DP. I don't have an idea yet of who I would wanna shoot or even if I get a shot (assuming if Banana is telling the truth and kills a town player like they said they would)
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@whiteflame
Oh yeah, when he goes into "narrative mode" with his reads and clips, historically he flipped scum.
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Oh yeah, when he goes into "narrative mode" with his reads and clips, historically he flipped scum.
It's been a while since he's played. I'll check back through some old games and see if this holds up.
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@Greyparrot
@Barney
Looking back through Barney's last few games as scum:

He got subbed out for Paper Mario due to lack of activity, don't see many reads there. He was scum that game and low effort in his reads the one time he posted them.

In US Presidential Elections, Barney was also scum and also low effort. Got found out early and didn't post reads.

In Villainous Villains, also low effort. I don't see any reads at all.


By contrast, I've seen a lot more of these narrative reads in his more recent games as town. Maybe I didn't go back far enough to see what you're talking about, but I'm having trouble seeing your case.
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@whiteflame
ok fine, it was only a small suspicion.
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Vader made it to three votes, so…

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@Vader
The odds of hitting scum are still relatively low from what I am seeing
Your choice to use your power or to not.

That said it’s a bit of a Monty Hall problem. Your shot has better odds than our lynch.

The one problem is if scum have a redirect power (we know they have a RB, but that could have been a one off from a goat). Otherwise I’d suggest we VNTL, then let you take over killing scum.
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@iamanabanana
Thank you.
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@WyIted
My bosses still dead name me though
Sorry to hear that.

Committing the Starving People In Africa fallacy, I’ll point out that it could be worse… Our president is trans but gets dead named by the entire country, she clearly came out identifying as “Taylor Swift.” But jerks still call her Donald Trump, and also President instead of King.
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 she clearly came out identifying as “Taylor Swift.” But jerks still call her Donald Trump, and also President instead of King.
I'm sorry to hear this. Completely unaccepting
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I’m holding my vote until after school
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Ok I’m here
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@iamanabanana
I am sorry I've been super busy today. I don't know why I am being voted over vader. The functionality behind my role is that if I am killed or lynched I can select any player I want to die. I was hoping to be the night kill, which is why I didn't want to reveal this, but I guess the cat is out of the bag now.
So how does it make the role useless by claiming. You still get to pick who to die after getting lynched as well. You’re also basically claiming a Hunter
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@ILikePie5
Banana’s role does sound scummier for sure.
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@Vader
If my powers get activated, who do you want me to shoot?

Basically top scum reads
Assuming you don’t die or get RBed, shoot your scumread. I think Savant was indeed scum. 
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Noted
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@whiteflame
Much as I do understand the pushback against two killing roles being in the game, at least to some degree, I don't really understand what would make this a tough decision if that's where you're coming from. I'm not sold on the Banana lynch myself, but I don't see a world in which Vader is scum here. So much of what he's done would have to be carefully planted ahead of time and executed in a very particular way. Couple that with the notion that scum would get an extra NK that activates on voting and I just don't buy it. At least Banana's Town Insurgent claim is a one-off that activates on death, and we've seen plenty of scum bombs that function in a similar capacity. Hell, been one myself.
Why are you not sold on Banana?
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@Mharman
Banana has to be scum. Her role clearly wasn’t useless if known. Savant is likely scum because of his flip and lack of placement in purgatory, which means Supa is town. She’s grasping at straws regarding Supa, when if she’s so confident, she can just take Supa with her