Gunplay Mafia DP4

Of course whiteflame was killed. 

Well despite wylted having a million reasons to be scum, I still want to consider a world where casey bussed and played the long con here. Wylted I know you said you would suspect me in the case that supa was town, but you should also give consideration to casey as well. No reason to rush things here. 

Casey, behaviorally I don't think I've noticed any major alarms from you. My usual scum tell of you was that you tended to fluff post a lot and prod activity from others to form your "opinions" on as scum. I never noticed that behavior from you this game, but there's a good chance since you've played many games since I've noticed that trend, it's one you've out grown.

Besides just being part of the wrong lynches (something wylted is equally guilty of), the only main behavioral tell I have from you is that you interest and activity seems to have dropped off considerably since dp1. As scum who is confident they have been read as town since the beginning of dp1, I can see why you'd have incentive to sit back and let town basically tear each other apart, as we seem to have done so far. Do you dis-agree with my take on your activity since dp1? You seem to have went from having that STELLAR read on GP to simply taking a back seat. I haven't been feeling the hard hitting analysis I got from you after that GP read. 

As far as wylted goes.. Yikes. I mean on paper I have EVERY reason to scum read him, but I was even hesitant about it last day phase. His over confidence is something I expect from him as either affiliation, but honestly it's more the effort he's been putting into it that surprises me if he was scum. No offense, but wylted has been trying hard and if he was scum after having his buddy lynched early dp1, I feel like he'd just be demoralized and quit. He went so hard on on austin and seemed so confident in the lynch, when he was the second lynch on the table, he easily could have just gave up and quit as many might do. Honestly casey quit my game after vader was found out, so it's another reason I have a hard time thinking he would bus like that. But I guess I just have to ask myself if wylted efforts this game as hard as he is doing right now as scum? 

I can see him doing it. Maybe he is just going balls to the walls as scum and doesn't care how it ends. He friviously voted and hammered twice in a row now, and it's also something I'd see him doing as town, but maybe as scum he just is giving it his best go and generally doesn't care if he is scum read. Idk, he has been posting way more than casey though and does seem to have some interest in the game. Idk other than that, everything he's done is still pretty scummy to me. 

Can one of you do me a favor and change the thread title to “Gunplay Mafia DP4” 

I messed it up

Thanks in advance

Okay whichever one of you it is you did an incredible job. I was confident with every lynch train I was on, so this is going to fuck with me for a while

I am and I really think reading DP1 will reveal a lot so I am going through it again. I don't even trust my own judgement right now either so I need to look for actual evidence

I am going to reread Vader's reads from yesterday though. I didn't take them serious and just skimmed them because I thought he was scum. Honestly if I thought he was town I may have tried to get myself lynched instead so he has to deal with this shitty position this dp

I will say that even if you are town you are playing really well as well.

Scum Casey is playing incredibly well but town Casey has been performing just as bad as me so.....

I will say there are things that lunatic has done that ai don't think he would do as scum. For example last DP he sounded like he had inside information i was town by telling me he hopes I enjoy my humble pie.

However that sort of mistake is not something a good scum player would make and he's usually pretty good.

Casey is usually terrible as scum and I can typically tell even on DP1 even though ai have to kinda wait for the rest of town to catch up. This time she is not throwing up any red flags.

My head is telling me to vote lunatic but my heart is telling me to vote Casey for many of the same reasons lunatic pointed out.

I will say it would be significantly more embarrassing to mislynch Casey than to mislynch lunatic here, although that sort of thing isn't supposed to matter.

It just hit me like a brick and I feel like an idiot for not noticing it sooner.

Before I continue this path I’m gonna reread a few Wylted games when I get to work, currently driving. Pretty sure this is significant though

No ideal

Other than most of the games I play as town I get lynched early and most as scum I make it to the endgame pretty easy. I probably shouldn't point that out though.

Just got out of work, will write more when I get home. Whiteflame dying is completely unsurprising to me; he was essentially town-confirmed as I said. I don't know why Vader seemed to entertain the possibility of him being scum tbh.

I will say that I haven't been as active since DP1, but like I said, my read on GP was largely fueled by my own skepticism that there would be a 1x Cop and a 1x Role Cop in the same game, and behaviorally GP was sus anyway. It also helped that this game started on the weekend.

This is probably going to end up being the hardest lynch decision I've ever had to make. I can see a strong town case for both of you. Will write more when I'm home. 

It is a hard decision. Kind of hope the first vote is on me so I can push the responsibility of the correct decision to somebody else

Didn't you hold back some other elements from your role?

You should probably put them now

I think ai solved it.

One minute

Lunatic is scum.

Give me a minute to explain. He doesn't match the theme split. Mharman did say a theme split was possible. I am going to go ahead and put the game in my hands but it's up to you to make the decision

All of our roles are essentially just elements of the game are neutral to the player character, while lunatics character has more of an active effect.

I don't know am I crazy here?

Either way if Casey is scum she deserves the win.

Refraining from placing my vote because I want to look at some more angles not 100% on this decision will likely set my vote in the next hour though

To be honest, I don't think I can glean that much from DP1 anymore. All of us were early supporters of the GP lynch, so there's really nothing to learn from there. I had a strong feeling before that GP's partner probably bussed him, but now it's a certainty.

Like I said before about Wylted, my gutread on him is strong, and I trust my gut. The thing is, my gut also tells me that Luna is probably telling the truth. Behaviorally, his support of the GP lynch and defense of Austin both come off as strongly towny, especially in retrospect. Though, I still don't really like his role claim. To be fair, however, Wylted's is also a little strange. Mharman is used to doing hybrid games, where the town has a few PR's mixed with several Vanillas -- that's something that Mharman was just talking to me about as he was giving me feedback on my ERB Mafia setup before I started that one. It seems a little strange to me that he would suddenly switch to Role Madness except for still having one Vanilla. On the other hand, I feel like scum would probably think the same way and thus avoid claiming VT. But maybe Wylted just thought he could get away with a VT claim. And if I keep thinking this way, I'm going to drown myself in WIFOM analysis.

But, right now, you two are probably wondering what results I got last night. Well... I didn't. Cop and Motion Detector were my two investigative roles, and the only investigative ones I had. Last night, I used my 1x Deflector ability. It's a bit of an unusual inclusion for a town role and I wasn't sure if I was going to use it at all this game, but after the last DP, it just made sense to use it. I deflected from WF to Luna, thinking that if Luna was scum, then GG. Otherwise, I'd know exactly who to vote for, and Whiteflame would probably vote for Wylted as well. Whatever roleblocking abilities scum were given must have still been active, however, since it obviously didn't work.

In any case, I think a lot of my decision here is going to come down to how likely I think it is think it is that there's a Ninja in the game based on balance analysis. If there is no Ninja, then Wylted has to be clear and it's Luna. If there is a Ninja, it could be either, honestly. Personally, I'm leaning towards there being a Ninja, but not necessarily an every night one. It might have to do with the scum factional perk. Austin has included an ability in a couple of his games where if one scum dies or is lynched, the other gets a free Ninja-Strongman kill on the following night. Maybe Mharman included something similar in this game.

Then again why are you still alive after soft claiming an investigative role on DP1?

Honestly, that's a great question. I myself was surprised I was alive at the start of DP2, considering how I usually die NP1 as town. I feel like the NP2 and NP3 kills were just kind of the obvious choices, though, especially Whiteflame. Literally nobody would believe he was scum at this point.

What does the deflector ability so exactly?

I don't mind if anyone else makes the wrong decision here but I don't want to be wrong.

Deflector involves two targets. Any actions directed at my first target get deflected onto my second target instead. It's like a Bus Driver, but only in one direction. People tend to confuse it with Redirector, but they're different.

Why would she somewhat clear me though by saying she saw me not move. I would say most of our roles are x shot and something that you guys would have to consider Is I would specifically have to be a ninja probably an x-shot one and would have specifically used that ability that night

It wouldn't redirect the NK though obviously I guess.