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Wait Greyparrot's role is 1X? Idk how I missed that, and it makes the role way more scummy. Only reason for 1x is if it's high utility, and role cop is much higher utility for scum.
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According to the post where he claimed it, yes, it's a 1X role. And I agree.
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NGL i did not notice the 1x part too and yes that makes it wayyy more scummy and less likely he gets it off after claiming it. 
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Greyparrot (3/5) - Wylted, Lunatic, Casey
Casey (1/5) - Pie
Lunatic (1/5) - Austin
Pie (1/5) - Greyparrot
Austin (1/5) - Whiteflame
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I'm down to lynch grey, but WF is right, we need softclaims.

VTL Austin
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Greyparrot (3/5) - Wylted, Lunatic, Casey
Austin (2/5) - Whiteflame, Savant
Casey (1/5) - Pie
Lunatic (1/5) - Austin
Pie (1/5) - Greyparrot

Time Remaining: 12 hrs

Remember, town’s faction perk is not activated on days with a no-lynch
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If it gets much closer to the end of the DP without word from Austin, I’ll switch my vote to GP. There is no reason whatsoever to no lynch. Should that happen, I’ll be seeking a full claim from Austin first thing next DP.
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WF can wait for a claim, but I don't want to forget to vote.

VTL GP
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Greyparrot (4/5) - Wylted, Lunatic, Casey, Savant
Austin (1/5) - Whiteflame
Casey (1/5) - Pie
Lunatic (1/5) - Austin
Pie (1/5) - Greyparrot

Time Remaining: ~9 hours


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Do yall town read Casey? Why or why not?
Yes - I think early aggression is generally towny if there's a clear thought process behind it, and the way they expanded on their read afterward felt pretty genuine, i.e. they didn't make up a justification after the fact. Scum don't really stick out their necks like this, and it's towny regardless of GP's alignment - if GP is scum, then Casey was the first one to push, while if Casey is town, they have no need to go this hard for a miselimination.
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Notably, I haven't seen either Casey nor Austin respond with a category for their character, though in Casey's case, I think they've softed enough about their role that it's less of an issue. It's more glaring that Austin hasn't responded at all. We have about 14 hours left in the DP, so I'm going to seek that information in the time we have.

VTL Austin

State whether yours is a player action or a non-player action. If it belongs to a category (e.g. informational, in-game object), please state the category as well.
I'm a non-player action.

I don't play shooter games, so I'm not sure what category it would fall in. As far as I can tell, it has to do with how the map is designed, if that helps.
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Savant's paranoia on Pie is obvious town for thought process.

Pie feels null right now, I guess I'll solve him off flips.
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On Greyparrot:

If he's scum, then gj. I think it's equally likely he's being bussed or scum is off his wagon, but it's a good start and even though I look bad for defending him I'll just deal with the consequences tmrw, wouldn't be the first time I've had bad reads.

If town, I think then scum is actively trying to either stay in the background or passively encourage the lynch with poor reasoning - I'm FOSing Luna in particular for this - if GP scum, he's probably fine, but if GP town, I think Luna knows better.
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My role is decent enough so I'll probs stay off-wagon unless it's needed to not end the day in a no-lynch.
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As an aside, Pie is definitely acting a lot more passive than I've seen him as town. Don't like him popping in solely to address Savant's FoS. He's also heavily focused on talking about mechanics rather than behavioral analysis.

I don't view it as a smoking gun, but as a contrast to his town meta, it definitely pinged me.
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Why the hell are you letting Luna and Casey railroad me dp1....

totally baseless...but whatevs
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I'm a non-player action.

I don't play shooter games, so I'm not sure what category it would fall in. As far as I can tell, it has to do with how the map is designed, if that helps.
Alright, that sounds like an informational claim, since that's generally how maps function.

Unvote

I'm good with just proceeding with this lynch. Unless anyone has a good reason to pursue more information, I'll go ahead with the hammer. I'll wait until the end of my workday in about 2 hours to vote just in case anyone has anything else they'd like to add.

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send it 
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scum!
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Null on Pie.
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Sorry I've been in and out of meetings with recruiters for jobs so inactivity has kinda plagued me. I am going to give my full reads soon
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I don't have a problem lynching GreyParrot right now. I think his lynch will give town enough information to work with when he flips in this game. His role is also inherently scummy and think he could be lynch. If there's a town flip I am going to put more pressure on some other players but I don't think this lynch is consequential 

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@Vader
do it scum, get the bonus for hammering
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I'll wait for your reads. Ping me and I'll go ahead and hammer.
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do it scum, get the bonus for hammering
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@Greyparrot
do it scum, get the bonus for hammering
I don’t know why you keep saying this as though it’s general knowledge. We are privy to the existence of a bonus for being on the lynch if you are scum, or being off the lynch if you aren’t. Why are you assuming that scum gets a bonus for hammering? Where’s that coming from?
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Only town gets the bonus.
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Faction perk implies scum has a roleblocker. Vader's claim implies scum has a ninja. If both are true, that doesn't really leave room for a scum role cop. If GP is scum, maybe the rber is third party.
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@Savant
Faction perk implies scum has a roleblocker. Vader's claim implies scum has a ninja. If both are true, that doesn't really leave room for a scum role cop. If GP is scum, maybe the rber is third party.
I understand the first sentence and the second, but I don’t understand the third and the fourth seems like a stretch. Why couldn’t GP be a JOAT with an RB and an RC? Why couldn’t his partner have multiple roles? Not really sure what makes a TP RB more likely.
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Why couldn’t GP be a JOAT with an RB and an RC? Why couldn’t his partner have multiple roles? Not really sure what makes a TP RB more likely.
Oh true because the 1x. Yeah, that probably means Grey has at least one other ability he's not sharing.

If you are willing to say, is your role more than 1x (i.e. 2x, 3x, infinite, multiple)? Mine is not 1x.