ERB Mafia DP2

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@Lunatic
I'm Jack the Ripper. In my battle my one good diss against Hannibal Lecter was that he went to jail. Hence, I'm the jailkeeper.
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Okay, I am going to bed soon, I will probably post some updated thoughts and reads a bit later, a bit too tired to think much atm. 
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@Savant
do you think banana is scum?
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@Vader
im sensing a wf/savant team.
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@Lunatic
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@iamanabanana
Ok, my reads.

Lunatic - Town. Role seems confirmed. However, we know that scum has some information due to the Pie kill, so it's possible he could get this info as scum. Yet his affiliation seems the most certain right now.
iamanabanana - Probably third party. Claim was early, and he phrasing of Luna's role supports this. However, it's possible they have a scum partner who advised this claim after seeing Luna's role.
whiteflame - Leans town. He's narrowing down PoE way more than a scum player needs to, and while he could just be intentionally acting townie like he usually does as scum, I think there's other tacks he could have taken if he wasn't sure who was going to be a target.
WyIted - Null. Idk why scum would silence themselves, but it's a WIFOM play and likely prevents a lynch at least for one day. If he's town, maybe whiteflame silenced him? Idk, that was the only person he accused.
Austin - Null. With PoE narrowed down, he's in the pool of possible scum, but his response to me jailing him seems townie.
Greyparrot - Possible scum due to process of elimination. Hasn't contributed as much as he could have.
Vader - Likely scum due to process of elimination. He posted a lot at the start of the day phase, which struck me as an attempt to take control of the conversation in a way he wasn't doing early on in the first day phase. Just comes across a bit strategic.
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@Greyparrot
Austin can confirm me.
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@Greyparrot
I think if Banana is telling truth it has to be one of them. But I wanna go back onto my banana reads
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@Savant
Your behavior has been sussy
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@Vader
okay, but 3rd party is very likely, and I would hope you don't follow savant and WF lynching 3rd party.
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@Greyparrot
How?
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So I looked back onto my banana reads and slept on it, and I think I can give some consideration to banana being a 3P. I was rereading the DP and took account the playerbase and people alive, and I feel like the only way that banana would've been inclined to fake a 3p claim is if they had a partner that was not that experience and didn't know. The only thing that throws me for a loop is the fake claim and that's the only thing that just doesn't make sense to me. Just sleeping it over I am just having a tough time seeing banana as scum.


Unvote

I have some more thoughts though
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@Greyparrot
I don't want to lynch 3rd party. And what gives you the idea that wf does?
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@Greyparrot
okay, but 3rd party is very likely, and I would hope you don't follow savant and WF lynching 3rd party.
Neither Savant nor I are on Banana's wagon, GP. I said straight up that I buy her claim.

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whoa, that was some fast team coordination...
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Also my theme that I was thinking was fictional characters vs non fictional character by the way. With the claims that were given so far, this theme idea seems dead to water
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@whiteflame
This was kind of the response I was looking for to a certain degree. I just noticed a pattern in a lot of your DP1 games you tend to reply and be engaged in more behavioral analysis. Even last game, which I can't say with activity level, I felt your posts had way more substance and more analytical thought to them with more of you talking to multiple people and contesting major points. Just seemed like you didn't do that a lot and I don't want to go activity hunting, just felt like at times you "rode the inactivity" that was happening
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@Greyparrot
whoa, that was some fast team coordination...
You and Vader? I agree.
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@Vader
This was kind of the response I was looking for to a certain degree. I just noticed a pattern in a lot of your DP1 games you tend to reply and be engaged in more behavioral analysis. Even last game, which I can't say with activity level, I felt your posts had way more substance and more analytical thought to them with more of you talking to multiple people and contesting major points. Just seemed like you didn't do that a lot and I don't want to go activity hunting, just felt like at times you "rode the inactivity" that was happening
I'd say that's fair enough. I didn't post the kind of behavioral analysis I'd like to have done. I understand scumreading me over it, as I can only say that I've had more limited time due to work over the last couple of days of the first DP, which is usually where I coalesce my reads and analysis of the game at large.

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@Savant
This isn't affiliation indactive once so ever. This is more of me being able to post on time

Here are some games where I was scum where I didn't "take control" 
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10920-invincible-day-phase-2?page=2
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/11684-shocking-tv-moments-dp2?page=1

These are all relatively recent too. I'm sure you can take a dive into my games and see this too. 80% of the time it's just when the DP gets sent and when I can response. The POE, yes makes sense if you are town, but the reasoning is pretty lazy
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@Savant
Hasn't contributed as much as he could have.
Can you give some more detail to why you think this? Because I honestly 100% disagree 
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@Vader
My read on Greyparrot? He was pretty quiet the first day, and I could easily see his claim coming from scum.
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@Vader
Did you see that? savant and WF want to 1v1 us...
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@Greyparrot
Did you see that? savant and WF want to 1v1 us...
Um no. I'm not even sure whiteflame is town.
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@Greyparrot
Did you see that? savant and WF want to 1v1 us...
Savant and Vader are the only two people besides you who are in my PoE, I haven't made a call on who I think is more sus between the two of them, both of them are over you right now, and I'm not 1v1ing anyone.
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cool, that's a small poe pool, and the town should easily solve the game soon.
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@WyIted
Revote.
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Banana (1/5): Wylted 

You got them momma jeans and a Mr. Fantastic face
So rich and white it's like I'm running against a cheesecake! 
Republicans need a puppet and you fit
Got their hands so far up your rear, call you Mitt
- Barack Obama, "Barack Obama vs Mitt Romney" 
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@Savant
This is why I really shouldn’t post when I don’t have downtime to do so.

My PoE is down to Vader, Austin and GP, not Savant. I gave my reasoning earlier for why the Justice role makes it more likely Savant is town, and then mixed him up with Austin in my last post. 

While I am townreading you right now, Savant, could you explain your reasoning for targeting Austin?
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@whiteflame
He's in PoE due to my other townreads, but he doesn't come off as particularly scummy. That's why I have him as null.
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@Savant
Alright, so more of a test using the RB than the protection of the JK. I get that. Also, crazy odds that you’d be the town RB two games in a row. I’d be sussing that if not for the Justice result.