Choose Your Role DP1

Okay, GP is town. No reason for him to lie about having such an easily confirmable role, and I can't see a role like that going to mafia. That's actually one of the situations where role confirmation is essentially affiliation confirmation.

I can put him in my town pile, although I prefer he never outted his role. At the very least, from however describes his role, that it confirms whoever was lynched. 

Use it the first chance you get, otherwise scum is likely to kill you. Takes one option off the table for them.

Catching up on the DP. Giving some thoughts on what I’ve read so far.

I think someone will have already mentioned at this point that there are only 7 of the 9 categories listed in this game. That means scum has access to two of them, so with a few exceptions, I don’t think we should be writing off any category as “town-only.” The killing role might be town-only since I can’t think of one scum would have. I’d also put the negative utility role in that category, maybe the passive. For the rest… not so much. There is almost certainly a town investigative role, but there are several investigative roles associated with scum that I can’t write off. If someone can inform me of a scum protective role because I’m not aware of one. I‘ll note that claiming a role in one of these categories doesn’t make the person a given to be town, especially since we know two category claims will be outright lies.

I can see how it would be possible for scum to have a JOAT that belongs solely to one of these categories. Since I believe there must be an Investigative role among the 7 on town, that implies that one scum player and one town player have manipulation roles to mess with their results. That might be part of the reason Luna’s a bit cagey about balance in the OP, since some manipulative roles will be either useful or useless depending on the investigator’s choice.

I buy GP’s claim. It’s quickly confirmable and is exceedingly unlikely to be scum.

I agree, there is no category Luna's warped mind could not twist to serve evil. Pure evil.

Protective I can see being a lock for town but killing is probably like a vigilante

We should absolutely test this if somebody wants to claim a negative utility

Does anyone else regret the role they chose and want to change it?

Me tbh

I'd start with someone we think is likely scum. Lynching scum day 1 is a huge advantage.

Role analysis will probably be useless this game. We’re going to have to rely on behavioral analysis for the most part. Balance analysis is also useless because the balance is up in the air per OP.

I think in terms of claims we should have everyone claim the roles they are NOT as a part of their full claim in addition to their category (being first claim)

Hi everyone.

I'm negative utility. I got the option of hammerer, hated, miller, and gravedigger. Hammerer was the only confirmable role, so I chose it. The role hammers any person at L - 1 if I'm not already on their wagon, and it disables at MYLO and LYLO.

Pretty sure this hard confirms me as town, since it'd be atrocious from a balancing perspective to give scum a useless when town has seven non-negative utility PRs.

Will be around later tonight to give my thoughts.

I like my choice.

Somehow, this doesn't make logical sense.

So do you automatically hammer at L-1 no matter what?

Ya. My vote automatically gets transferred to be the hammer vote.

It sounds pretty bad, but it's pretty easy to play around - just don't put people at L - 1 if you don't want them to die immediately.