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Only thing I can argue on salvation is what is based in scripture. I can't argue whether the scripture is true or not . I can't argue the logic of it.

I can only argue if there is some sort of contradiction with salvation, along those lines. 

I can argue based on the scripture that the flesh is God and god .

If you want to counter all this , let me know if you want a video or a debate setup on this site. Let's just get specific.
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Yes, video Vs video would be great.
Let's discuss the resolution and rules and how we are going to get votes on it. Probably shila would be organizer, if agree on it?
Who will give pension arguement and what should be resolution?
We will present structure here and presented main arguments in videos and then post here on turns and viewers could give review on how it's going and do they appreciate it. Then when we want to finish the debate, we both will agree about our input is enough to get judge now and leave the debate. After the debate is ended then we cannot add to arguments but we can discuss about the votes based on what already presented so far in videos. Unless we want to continue again.


In next post I am going to give resolution.

Our debate is about salvation.
And if you want some rules plz mention, as this is going to be first time so focussing how this is going to be done is better.
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Ok saying the topic is salvation is too broad. To specify it, the topic can be, does salvation according to biblical scripture have contradictions within the scriptures?

So the next thing is being that I don't see any contradictions , you can suggest some biblical passages that appear in conflict to you or any scripture. I think the meat of the issues for you are contradictions in general within the bible.

Here's an example. God says besides him there is no savior. But the scripture also teaches the son to be the savior.

So go ahead and select things out of the scripture. I can present a video on it explaining. I believe you're subscribed to the J. Talks to the people channel, please ensure your post notifications is on for all posts. 








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Here's an example. God says besides him there is no savior. But the scripture also teaches the son to be the savior.
How can salvation be taken seriously when those promoting salvation Jesus and his disciples were all martyred? The only ones seeing any signs of salvations were the Romans who crucified Jesus and killed his disciple to go on to creating the Roman Catholic Church offering salvation to the world.
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Salvation according to the scriptures takes God working in a person to be worked out. When somebody is serious or takes salvation seriously, it is God working out the soul salvation in an individual.
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Salvation according to the scriptures takes God working in a person to be worked out. When somebody is serious or takes salvation seriously, it is God working out the soul salvation in an individual.
So you are claiming God took the salvation of the Romans who crucified Jesus seriously and helped them establish the Roman Catholic Church and offering salvation with his authority.
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Nope , never stated any of those words the way you put it. 

Put what you said side by side to what I stated and do a comparison. Two different paragraphs. You either want to learn something or reject what somebody tells you because you already decided the answer for yourself.
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Sorry could not do anything today about it. As doing something related to my debate and it's voting. Tomorrow I will see, well Mall, I will tell you resolution tomorrow.
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Nope , never stated any of those words the way you put it. 

Put what you said side by side to what I stated and do a comparison. Two different paragraphs. You either want to learn something or reject what somebody tells you because you already decided the answer for yourself.
God took the salvation of the Romans who crucified Jesus seriously.

Roman Catholicism traces its history to Jesus during the period of Roman occupation in the early 30s of the Common Era. Over a period of years after Jesus' life and death his followers spread out across the world to form a “universal” (Greek, katholikos) church with the bishop of Rome holding primacy.
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I don't know where you're getting your information. I can tell you what scripture says regarding salvation.


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I don't know where you're getting your information. I can tell you what scripture says regarding salvation
God had to save the Romans first so they could go on to for the Roman Catholic Church. We wouldn’t have 2 billion Christian’s today if it wasn’t for the Roman Catholic Church.
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Ok.
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Ok
Jesus moved from a Jewish asset to a Roman asset.