Health insurance company ceo assassinated in Manhattan

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The public sentiment on the intertubes is "fuck em". This insurance company leads the pack in denying claims, somewhere around a third of claims r denied. Some posts on the net are sayin vigilante justice is never acceptable, and those posts r actually getting down voted. There is a palpable bloodlust in public opinion from the masses, unsympathetic to the murder. The public knows enough to know health insurance companies are a middle man who serves no real purpose other than to leech money from healthcare and police coverage, deny claims. Of course the public doesn't realize that it's probably the hospital ceos who are just as if not more responsible for our exorbitant healthcare costs, although they aren't the ones denying insurance coverage.

What say you? Are you sympathetic? What do you think of the practical details of the assassination and of the politics surrounding it?




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If he was honest, he was an honest man in a dirty business.

I am not saying it's dirty to deny claims, but the whole system has the scent of sociopathy on it.

Nobody knows who is paying for what, nobody cares, government is trying to make preexisting conditions required coverage (which is contradiction to the definition of insurance), they just want a magic "pay it" and the way the health care industry has evolved to simply assume everybody is going to have insurance which will pay absurd prices is sickening.

They don't even check, they just make you sign something that says you'll pay one way or another, they won't give you a quote, the insurance company won't guarantee a payout until AFTER the procedure is done, and everybody acts like this utter insanity is normal.

It should all be destroyed and I am not surprised the system screwed someone over so badly that they snapped. Of course county bureaucrats are just as deserving but to each his own....

The solution is: Get government force the hell out of private market. Doctors are highly educated professionals who will always earn good money, but the waste and grift is unacceptable and the only way that will go down is when people start looking at the bill.

Medications and procedures should be chosen through an adversarial system and through the resolution of that system preapproved by insurance companies. The plans should be comprehensible.

Long term and preexisting conditions should be paid with HSAs and not insurance.
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Someone watched Saw VI

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Anyone who participates in capitalism is fair game for assassination according to Marxist revolutionaries. (Just watch Parasite.) That includes anyone with stock in a 401k.
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Well this is now Trump's America. Remember that he said he could shoot somebody and he wouldn't lose any votes.
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I dont approve of assassinations.

There is even a naive military strategy which focuses on killing leadership.

Its usually naive because there is always someone equally bad to replace a leader.

This wont fix anything.
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What say you? Are you sympathetic? What do you think of the practical details of the assassination and of the politics surrounding it?
They don’t know the motive for the killing yet. The suspect has not been apprehended.
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Imagine him squirreling away his wealth for 30 years, late nights at the office trying to suck up to the boss, stressful phonecalls from the Cayman islands at 2am telling them the offshore account's been found, blackmail from Epstein and Mossad telling him not to talk or else the pictures get leaked, blood pressure 200/140 all day every day and only ludes help but they don't make those any more so you have to get knock-off Mexican ludes smuggled in some border-hopping spics asshole but you take em anyway cos that's the only way you can still sleep at night, just dreaming of that day soon when you finally retire to a tropical island with your ill-gotten gains and live the next 50 years in the lap of luxury, sitting on your own private beach getting served mojitos and sucked off by big titty Filipina bartenders and then some nigger shoots you point black in the head LOL.
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Suspiciously specific
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That's true but his wife said he got death threats from those who didn't have adequate coverage
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We don't know if the shooter is Trump yet. His people might not be the best, most loyal people.
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That's true but his wife said he got death threats from those who didn't have adequate coverage
Bullshit. They deny claims for some really stupid reasons regardless of coverage. So many people probably denied and with loved ones lost as a result of the insurance company being the final say on a procedure and challenging the authority of doctors
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We don't know if the shooter is Trump yet. His people might not be the best, most loyal people.

The police said they don't know whether the killing was personally or professionally motivated but they're looking into “everything.”
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Anyway this guy will get caught. Rented electric bike. Trip to Starbucks. Amatuer shooting g at a distance instead of point blank. He did great for a noob assassin but he was a noob. 
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Anyway this guy will get caught. Rented electric bike. Trip to Starbucks. Amatuer shooting g at a distance instead of point blank. He did great for a noob assassin but he was a noob.

Detectives believe a phone found in the alley the gunman ran through may have belonged to the shooter. Police also found a bottle of water that detectives believe the gunman purchased just minutes before the shooting at a Starbucks around the corner.

One senior police official said video from the Starbucks shows the man, barely visible under a black hood and wearing a surgical mask, buying two power bars and a bottle of water.

The phone could yield fingerprints or DNA, and if police technicians can unlock the phone, it may offer the suspects identity. Even if it is a “burner phone” it could give investigators more information about communications and searches before the shooting.

The water bottle may also offer DNA, according to investigators. Two pieces of evidence police are still searching for are the gun and the bicycle the gunman used to flee.

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This video is completely unrelated to what happened to that CEO

https://youtu.be/kLWvu51Vk4E?si=vCTqoWe2MEWwoAcY
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That's pretty general, I only know how to kill geologists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhgEiusHrNg
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How much are CEOs bothered right now that one was murdered in cold blood and the general population is amused by it? 
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U item healthcare had one of the highest insurance denial rates in the industry at 32%.  So this guy kinda made his own bed 
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How much are CEOs bothered right now that one was murdered in cold blood and the general population is amused by it? 
Trump and the Republicans party are still planning to ban Obamacare.
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How much are CEOs bothered right now that one was murdered in cold blood and the general population is amused by it? 
Eh, half of the high-profile deaths are celebrated by some group nowadays. It might bother some CEOs, but in all likelihood, the internet will forget about him in a few days and go back to being mad at Trump. Even if the commies win, they'll need the support of some rich people, so easy to align yourself with the Bolsheviks if it comes to that.
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Trump and the Republicans party are still planning to ban Obamacare.
Did you see last time?

He literally was going to ban it but the plan was to replace it with something almost identical but removing the most controversial parts and adding in some popular measures. By the way after democrats voted against that, many of those same changes that would have turned obamacare into trumpcare have been implemented. 

If you really want to dig into the healthcare thing. It worked better before FDR took measures to bring about the modern healthcare industry. Basically how it worked prior to FDR ruining things was doctors had sliding scale fees and people just payed what they could afford and it was expected to be that way
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I am right wing and I stand with the commies at not caring this evil bastard died. I think this goes across party lines just like hating landlords
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I lean towards the law, as well as individual and community efforts.

To murder someone seems an extreme,
Not an 'unimaginable extreme.
But the nation would have to be 'pretty bad for me to think of it highly as an option.

America is a country of freedom, people 'have options, they are able to form new communities, and seek out like minded people.
We actively participate in many evils towards others,
Whether the meat industry or sweatshops.
People should look towards their own sins.

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

Assassination of individuals in a society becomes war.
More than many nations, America is a nation of many peoples, many beliefs.

I can imagine some Anti-Theist killing Theist Pastors,
Or a Theist killing Atheist promoters.
. . .

I cannot say I recall reading of many vigilantes in real life,
Not that they have not occurred.

If one knows of another's misdeeds or illegal activities,
I'd rather they try to expose them,
Though such does not always work,
I do not think vigilante murder always works either.
. . .

I can imagine people killing peddlers of meth,
What then of peddlers of marijuana? People once had a much harsher view of it,
What then of peddlers of alcohol, cigarettes?
. . .

I enjoyed reading the manga Akumetsu
I enjoyed watching The Boondock Saints (1999)
I enjoyed the Rorschach in Watchmen Alan Moore comic and (2009) movie.

I am reminded of Death Note, Law Abiding Citizen (2009), Pay booth (2002).
Didn't really like those last three that much.

I haven't seen Dexter (TV Series)
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I don't recall if I've debated the subject before, possibly an interesting debate subject.
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goes across party lines
Yes, disparaging celebrities and rich people on the internet goes across party lines. It has since Al Gore invented the internet. Yet there the celebrities still are.

just like hating landlords
It's a free country, not a rent-free country.
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Yes, disparaging celebrities and rich people on the internet goes across party lines. It has for a while now. Yet there they still are
It sickens me that I am drawing them closer to my circle. I am pretty sure if I just state my political opinions Loudly they will keep their distance from me though. 

It's a free country, not a rent-free country
I wonder if we banned the renting out of single family homes if buying houses would become affordable again. Also I think it's more the realization that landlords are getting really just ahitty people. 

The one sided leases are scummy. The fact that they stuff literally everyone out of deposits. I have never known somebody to rent from a private landlord and not need to take them to court over their deposit. 

This is nothing you have stated you disagree with but decided to rant here for fun.

The hate of the rich you mentioned is what gets me. I hate them and it has held me back because I don't want to become the thing I hate and everything I climb my way up to 6 figures I just jump to a new industry from the bottom and work myself up again and the see 6 figures as rich so get disgusted with myself and decide to go to the bottom. 

I have recently decided that I am not rich unless I make 500k a year so hopefully that keeps me from any self destructive tendencies for a while, but knowing my luck some retard will make me CEO of an insurance company and I will be forced to do insider trading or something to tear it all down
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I am not rich unless I make 500k a year
The Party has decided you are rich. Now face the wall.

I will be forced to do insider trading
And when that gets leaked, someone will shoot you on the street and become a hero...
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I guess there are plenty of gormless gun toters on Americas mean streets, who don't need much encouragement.

With over 40,000 gun related deaths per year, I don't see what all the fuss is about.

A slightly more high profile corpse,  so the media will love it I suppose.

Something to endlessly rabbit on, about in between all those medicine adverts and weather reports that y'all so fond of.


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And when that gets leaked, someone will shoot you on the street and become a hero..
No because insider trading is a victimless crime while denying valid insurance claims is not
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Of course the public doesn't realize that it's probably the hospital ceos who are just as if not more responsible for our exorbitant healthcare costs, although they aren't the ones denying insurance coverage.
The problem is that interventionist laws were passed that caused health insurance to become a thing under FDR. This insurance means that consumers do not see the prices of service so they don't care to negotiate which drives prices up. The problem was literally caused by economic interventionism and stupid leftists are like. 

"Hmmmm the source of the problem is economic I terventionism. Well let's solve this through economic interventionism "

When anyone with an IQ above 75 knows that you look for the root of the problems and attack that for more lasting change