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@WyIted
I wouldn’t put your odds at that, but it’s a strategy, and I respect that.
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I want to point out that just because Moozer is "role confirmable" does not mean he's town confirmed. However his behavior aligns with what I see with town. Plus his ultra cautious explanation of his role because of the past few games makes me think he's more town
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@Mharman
Busy weekend and thought this game would start Sunday. Yeah that's my bad but I think this SHOULD be an outlier 
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Thoughts on others’ behavior?
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@Vader
Ok.
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@whiteflame
I am actually 50/50 on claiming albums because like I said in a previous post, giving mafia too much information is always a  bad thing. However, I also know Luna (from my experiences, idk if the same resignates for everyone), but there is usually some form of mechanic that usually gives the game analysis away with regards to theming or game setup, so if we get it out of the way and mafia have to wait...it could force pressure on them. But it's a big gamble related to mod psyche that idk if anyone could pull off
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Why do you townread Whiteflame
I thought the theme was town was on the make happy album and he claimed the album but also pointed out there is no theme so forget it
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Wait, there's no theme. Hmm ok
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I wouldn’t put your odds at that, but it’s a strategy, and I respect that.
Well I just read your debate where your argument for 18 year term limits for the Supreme Court was because currently the average term served is almost 17 years and because on average each president gets about 2 picks anyway etc.

Your position as somebody who holds the entirety of the BOP is that giving term limits would barely change things.

So I am not going to respect the opinion of somebody  whose best argument for a debate they created against the status quo is to argue that the policy they advocate for would literally have no impact on how things work anyway. 


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I think my two strongest reads are Moozer as town and unironically Pie as town.

I've never seen Pie on a stretch of inactivity as he has, which sort of makes me think he's town. I think if he was scum he would make some attempt at a post
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Gonna take a break to write this essay real quick
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@Mharman
You definitely read deeper into things then I would be even capable of. 

For me, you and Mozer are furthest town for me.

Honestly everyone else though is pretty close to null. Even Casey. I can understand why people are scum reading them, but it feels so insignificant.  

That's my incredibly unexperienced opinion. 
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Is Vader Supa?
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Vader's logic for Pi makes sense, but if they're not going to show up would he still be a good lynch option?
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@Mharman
Thoughts on others’ behavior?
I think you are town, you have been kind of leading the town and trying to help solve things in a way that doesn't feel like you are trying to push a narrative, or trying to lead a mislynch. Wylted also feels town to me, and I think him not catching there was a theme split in the OP is probably another hint that he is town. Mafia should be distinctly aware of something like that right?
Whiteflame, hasn't hit me as town yet, but hasn't done anything to ping my radar yet.
Moozer keeps claiming he can confirm himself, I can buy that for now.

My thoughts on scum is loosely between pie, owen and vader. Owen has been active but I don't really see him doing anything impactful yet. Pie is the only one who hasn't posted so right now I am concerned about that. Vader has made an appearance so I will give him some time.

Lastly casey feels weird to me, pressing information from moozer when most people seem to be okay with him. And his activity hasn't felt meaningful. I could be swayed to vote for casey.
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Hey guys, been with the girl for Halloweekend. Driving back from Austin to Dallas later today. Will analyze when I get home
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been with a girl
Citation needed
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yeah Supa is Vader's old name
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Stayed up late last night and crashed. I really wish I had worn ear plugs last night because my one ear is STILL ringing. 

I'll expand on my reads in a bit, but for now, Moozer and Wylted are town, Owen and Banana lean town, everyone else is null for me. 
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Yes
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Something about Owen's posts feel off to a certain extent and I can't just put my finger. They feel "safe." Nothing that's gonna tilt the meter to making him look suspicious but also still contributing. I think the theme analysis one strikes me the most just because when pointed out that there is no theme split, just dodges that point. Slight FoS on Owen but I'm not reading it too hard. I am also not very familiar with Owens playstyle so I can't give a definitive answer if this is general town behavior or actually something to delve into 
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Alright, so Moozer - it's not so much the fact that he claims to have a confirmable role as the specific way he has been talking about it. It comes off as very genuine to me, especially after seeing his scum game where he was very awkward. And yes, role confirmation is not alignment confirmation, but Moozer just gives off very good vibes to me.

Wylted - When I first played with Wylted, I felt like he was kind of impossible to read, but now I've realized that he's actually pretty easy to read, at least when it comes to Mafia. My gutreads are often wrong, except when it comes to Wylted. I trust my gut 100% when it comes to him, and right now it is telling me he is definitely town. Plus, the whole thing about believing he had discovered the theme split feels real to me.

Owen - it's a bit tough to say given that he hasn't posted all that much yet, but what he has said so far gives me good vibes. Trying to get everyone to claim their album was a way to actually get the ball rolling, and I respect that. I know that in the last game, it felt like he was very reliant on his scum partners.

Banana - again, tough to say given that we haven't seen her as anything other than town yet, but everything she has posted so far seems to be perfectly in line with her style from previous games. Her reads also feel quite genuine to me.

As for Mharman, I remember him saying in a previous game (I can't remember which one) that his scum game was, in his opinion, actually even better than his town game. I haven't seen him as scum yet, but I have seen him as town, and he strikes me as a good town player, which makes me a bit nervous about him. So far, he has given me absolutely no reason to scumread him yet, but I also don't know how scum Mharman would act. Granted, the same applies to Banana, but if she is scum, then this is her first game and people tend to make mistakes and be at least a little bit sus in their first scum game. Mharman has experience.

WF is null for now. Ditto for Pie and Vader, neither of which have given me much to go off of yet.
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It's going to be tough for me to read Mharman because even playing mafia with him for 7+ years to an extent, I really can't remember a time I've seen him as scum and even then, the last time was likely 3+ years ago and I wouldn't be able to remember, not to mention his playstyle could change. I feel like Mharman feels town cuz of his reads and analysis, but I am going to keep him in null because I can't overly trust that read lol
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I also have an FoS on Casey because I remember Luna pointing out in a game one time that Casey tends to be throw questions that are relatively vague as scum to draw town cred. 
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Honestly gut reaction to Wylted is town. Feel like Wylted "solving" the game and scum hunting to the degree he was is something I would see out of him as town rather than scum
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Alright, good to see you both are alive.

Unvote

I’m running around this afternoon, but I’ll catch up when I get a chance.
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@Vader
Last time I was a mafioso, I was on a team with you and Pie if I recall.

We made some mistakes and Pie carried us to victory lol.

As for your FoS on Casey, can you expand?

And for your FoS on Owen… I’m not suspicious. We’ll see what he says as the game goes on, but I would expect him to be hanging back a bit more after what happened in his last game. I’m not saying he’s done anything to get me to townread him, just that I can see him playing with little confidence, no matter his affiliation.
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@Lunatic
Can we get a vote count?

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@Vader
I say this: I understand your point and it’s worth revisiting later, but I’m not seeing any real red flags for now. In fact, looking back his posts, I’m feeling at least at tiny bit better about him after he posted his thoughts. They’re not much, but they do come off as honest, albeit low effort.
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@Mharman
As for your FoS on Casey, can you expand?
I remember in a game that Lunatic had a good observation that Casey generally tends to ask more vague questions as scum to sort of blend in this game. Noticing he's doing that a good amount in this game and have been picking up on it. Then I just believe the reads he does give have been a bit fluff IMO. Not much significance and original thought besides the questions he asks. I am not a good behavioral reader so I could be off, but that's what I notice