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@Mharman
I am almost certain Casey is scum. I think she got caught without realizing g it but will wait a bit.
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Mharman moozer whiteflame as town.
Banana slight town.
Casey scum
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@Moozer325
I second what owen said. Don't use your role until it benefits town
Not really sure where these reads are coming from, but I agree at least that if Moozer can confirm himself (so long as his role is not anti-town) he should, and that his efforts to be clear about it read as townie.
As claiming albums, I can see how it could make picking fake claims easier for scum, but the lack of a theme split means scum have little incentive to fake their character claims to begin with.
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@whiteflame
I think there is a theme split
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@WyIted
How is Casey absolute mafia?
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@WyIted
The OP says otherwise.
VTL pie, im a bit surprised he hasnt been here yet
Same as Vader
I'd like to get an explanation from WyIted on why casey is scum
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@Owen_T
You’ll have a hard time getting one. It’s tradition at this point that WyIted jumps on someone early in the game for the smallest of reasons so he seems smart. Don’t read anything into it.
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@whiteflame
As claiming albums, I can see how it could make picking fake claims easier for scum, but the lack of a theme split means scum have little incentive to fake their character claims to begin with.
Hm. This is also a good point.
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@Moozer325
I wouldn't say that's the reason he does it... but he does do it often yeah
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@Owen_T
I'd like to see what he thinks, too.
But first, imma post my detailed reads.
Moozer- Hard town. He claimed a role that is confirmable, and says it’s townie. If anything, he’s giving away too much information in Post #57. Given what he’s said- we have a dichotomy: Either he’s telling the truth, or he’s already got an extremely good fakeclaim already… the former of which is FAR more likely. I think he’s giving away too much information because he’s too eager to get himself confirmed. Moozer, please stop giving away too much info. We believe you.
In general I’m gonna be hard pressed to scumread someone who claimed a fonfirmable role right off the rip. I think a mafioso would wait longer before doing something like that. Plus, there’s also just town vibes I’m getting from him.
Wylted- Town. Early on he didn’t do much, but I believe his explanation for that. I’m not going to go into that any further.
Outside of that, it looks like standard Wylted play. Obviously he’s latched onto my read of Casey pretty fast, but that’s normal for him. I like how he’s trying to set activity goals for Banana and I like how he corrected Lunatic on the vote count when he could’ve done that in a scum PM easily if he was a mafioso. Finally, he also urged town to stop claiming albums, believing that would help mafia fake claim. I know Whiteflame made a good point about why that may not be the case, but here’s the thing about that: If Whiteflame is correct, it’s moot; if Wylted is correct, he’s helped town. Regardless, the effort seems genuine.
Banana- Slight town. I like how she questioned Wylted and I on our votes- she clearly picked up there was a reason for our votes… which is a sign she’s really trying to read people.
Yes, I will confirm I told a half truth about that being an RVS. I was testing her reaction like an RVS sure, but I’m ngl, I didn’t like her opening at first. I felt like it was a “look at me, I’m doing something” post. But compared to how everyone else started the game, it looks good in comparison.
The more I think about that opening, the more I like it. Now it just looks like a question she asked to start some kind of conversation- she might’ve picked up that opening from Pie, although Pie normally asks noobs about their mafia experience when he does that. It doesn’t do much to actually get the ball rolling, but it’s something I guess. Honestly, I think I’ll chalk up my earlier game misread on that to Early DP1 Paranoia.
I also like how she’s cooperating with Wylted. Admittedly, my case on her towniness is weaker than those on Moozer and Wylted, but there really no red flags i’m seeing compared to these tiny green flags.
Owen- Null: Has said some stuff, but none of it is interesting to me.
Vader- Null: Inactive, which I am sadly not surprised by. How annoying. I know he’s usually pretty busy, but still.
Pie- Null: I am surprised by his inactivity. However, I wouldn’t be suspicious of it like others have said. I’ve never seen him be this inactive, town or mafioso… which just means it doesn’t indicate anything about his affiliation. Also a little annoying, but I’m also wondering what’s going on with him.
Whiteflame- Null: Initially, I had him down as ever so slight town, that’s so close to 50/50 I might as well call it that.
I there’s some things to be said about his willingness to claim album when we thought it was a good idea, and I also think there’s something to be said about his subtle pushback on some of my ideas. The thing is, I can see everything he’s done as something he could do as either affiliation. He’s more interesting than Owen, but there’s just not any green or red flags I’m getting from him.
Casey: Slight scum: It feels like every time someone has an idea or a question, she must go along with it. It feels like blend-in behavior, the way she’s been copying Banana… there’s just no original ideas from her.
The other thing is how she was questioning Moozer… I really don’t like that. That looks like probing more than anything else.
Finally, there’s been like a couple times where I’ve posted something and she’s popped online to respond pretty quick, then went offline. This last time, she didn’t respond, but I think she was anticipating me to post these reads a bit sooner.
I need to work on being concise.
As for the course of action, I’m okay with pressuring Casey or pressuring an inactive.
I’ll make a decision in the morning.
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@WyIted
One last thing:
Thoughts? I want to know what you are seeing in particular.
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@whiteflame
The OP says otherwise.
Well that destroys my theories and most of my reads. I thought Casey scum slipped because I have the same album as the other two and I thought she was oblivious that they were definite town . Whatever not explaining it well
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@Mharman
I thought she slipped because I thought I picked up on the theme already but I realized there is no theme
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@Moozer325
You’ll have a hard time getting one. It’s tradition at this point that WyIted jumps on someone early in the game for the smallest of reasons so he seems smart. Don’t read anything into it.
That's wrong. I usually give my reasonings but people ignore them anyway and am right more often than I am wrong
In the 30% of cases where I am wrong at least half the time I am able to get off the lynch before the mistake is made
Pie and supa have been pinged for activity.
Vader is a frat boy who is drunk right now and it is close to the election so pie has to drive around to blue areas throwing molotov cocktails at ballot boxes. On Wednesday we should see more activity from pie. On Monday more activity from supa
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@WyIted
Well that destroys my theories and most of my reads. I thought Casey scum slipped because I have the same album as the other two and I thought she was oblivious that they were definite town . Whatever not explaining it well
I get it. I rely on theme analysis a lot, so I'd probably be doing the same if I hadn't spotted the lack of theme split stipulation.
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@Mharman
Fair set of reads.
My activity hasn't been as high as I'd like (my parents are visiting this weekend), so I don't think I've done all that much to read in the first place, let alone townread.
As for Casey, I haven't kept track of the timing of their posts like you have, so I can't say I have a strong reason to sus them yet.
I'm also more null on Banana. It's good to see her taking more of an active role this time around, which we also saw a bit of last game where she gave some good insights. I'm a little wary of her because we've never seen her scum play (it's part of the reason I agonized over the choice between her and Cerulean a couple of games back), so I'm a little more hesitant to put her in town atm. I'll need more insight into how she's thinking.
I don't have anyone I'm really scumreading right now. Vader and Pie are absent. Owen hasn't done anything to stand out either way, largely just perfunctory posting. I'm not sure what Moozer is hinting at with his role, but I agree his efforts are town and I don't want him to reveal too much or be too wasteful of his role in the process of confirming it. I still have a hard time reading WyIted, but his efforts to work with theme come off as pretty townie. Maybe that's just my bias.
Hello. I thought the game was gonna start Sunday but oh well. Gonna read this DP
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@iamanabanana
Hello all. Checking in. What is everyone's familiarity with the theme? My lil brother used to watch Bo on youtube forever ago, that's about all I know of him. He seems kind of like an musical comedian?
I know of Bo Burnham but not really his specific songs
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@Lunatic
Thx
Oh here’s Vader
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@WyIted
Ah.
Why do you townread Whiteflame?
Why do you townread Whiteflame?
Think it's better to potentially hold off on getting claims and soft-claims. I actually agree with Wylted. From my experiences, Luna usually never gives fake claims out. Or he has a mechanic that gives hints about the game/roles (what he's been doing lately). I hate mod psyching but I think Wylted has a strong point with regards to not claiming anything that gives scum more info