Who are you voting for this coming presidential election and why?

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Trumpet or Harris? Are you in the post #8 camp? Please share with us.

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Cenk goes of on his TYT show about how the party has collapsed in direction by being fixated on "not-Trump"

He explains that this direction has turned the Democrat party into a party filled with Neocons like Bush and Cheney to the point that it's nowhere near what it was before Trump.
Cenk only looks enlightened compared to the unbelievable blinders on the rest of the tribe.

Seriously, I was alive in 2007 when Bush and Cheney and the warmongers were the absolute devil to the left tribe. The deep state see the tribes as tools, not allies. They were infesting the right-tribe at that time, now they infest the left-tribe.

That none of them remember or have the courage to speak up (with a few exceptions like Cenk, now, at the end of all things) speaks to just how poor their information integration always was. In other words they were sheep, they are sheep, and sheep + democracy = tyranny. They cant even apply enough critical thinking to be worried about losing democracy to the actual threat of having an unquantifiable number of illegal ballots included.
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website didn’t decide to post the rest of what I said
lovely
Anyways, i would probably vote Kamala. Not a lot of the policies have much effect on me from either side, but I wouldn’t want a convicted felon in office, no matter the party.
I also think that women should have the right to choose, and Trump clearly doesn’t support that
Another thing I noticed was that in the debate he got smoked.
to this day I still wonder how he thought of the line “they are eating the dogs”

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I also think that women should have the right to choose, and Trump clearly doesn’t support that
I never can understand this. Trump has said a hundred times he doesn't want a Federal ban. And the reality is: if somehow Roe Wade gets codified in the Congress (which it should have been 50 years ago), it would mean there would be a federal ban on all Democrat state abortion laws that want abortions without restrictions...because Roe had...RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION... That means many current abortion laws in a lot of blue states would become subject to federal laws restricting abortion after the 2nd trimester. Because of this, there's never going to be a unified consensus among Democrats in Congress to codify Roe unless it's not ROE and something new with zero restrictions, which will NEVER pass, especially in purple states.

Why does nobody know this? Bad press? Bad schools?

 Not a lot of the policies have much effect on me from either side,
Must be nice to ignore the economy. Most people don't have that luxury.
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website didn’t decide to post the rest of what I said
lovely
Anyways, i would probably vote Kamala. Not a lot of the policies have much effect on me from either side, but I wouldn’t want a convicted felon in office, no matter the party.
I also think that women should have the right to choose, and Trump clearly doesn’t support that
Another thing I noticed was that in the debate he got smoked.
to this day I still wonder how he thought of the line “they are eating the dogs”

Oops my bad, I didnt read far enough. Thank you.

Sorry I dont have a million bucks to offer you at this place in this thread

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I am voting to the presidential candidate who has actually worked at McDonald's

https://youtu.be/WvYy1J6NLwU?si=10ciOW82QkmnljKC
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Just saw that:
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I'm voting Trump because he is the only candidate that is addressing the issue of how large Arnold Palmer's junk is.
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Yes, the late golf icon Arnold Palmer was “appalled” by former president Donald Trump, who weirdly started boasting about Palmer’s genitals at a campaign rally Saturday, and “couldn’t believe the crudeness” of the Republican nominee for president, according to his family.
A senior advisor for Trump’s campaign told reporters before his rally in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, that the event would kick off his “closing argument” to voters as the election nears.
Instead, Trump opened his remarks by talking about Latrobe-born Palmer’s penis: “When he took the showers with other pros, they came out of there. They said, ‘Oh my God. That’s unbelievable.’”
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He probably would have rolled in his grave if not for the speed bump.
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Yes, the late golf icon Arnold Palmer was “appalled” by former president Donald Trump
The guy you pasted this from didn't know Palmer was dead.
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A senior advisor for Trump’s campaign told reporters before his rally in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, that the event would kick off his “closing argument” to voters as the election nears.
Instead, Trump opened his remarks by talking about Latrobe-born Palmer’s penis: “When he took the showers with other pros, they came out of there. They said, ‘Oh my God. That’s unbelievable.’”

rofl, the bisexual vibe is strong.

What a cruel world. Trump has Melania but wants Palmer, meanwhile FLWR wants Melania and hates Trump.
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Wow, you and ADOL do have IQ's of 73 like Trump.  According to the internet, a person is “late” when deceased for only a short period—maybe 5–30 years max.
" the late golf icon Arnold Palmer"
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Lol, knowing dead people, late or otherwise, can't be appalled by anything is obviously far beyond your abilities. And the poor guy you pasted this from.
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I am voting for Kamala Haris because I believe in sanity and a world where truth matters. I believe in the rule of law and the constitution, and I believe in democracy. Overall I do like her policies even though I take issue with a lot of them, but that is secondary to everything else I just mentioned.

Trump is the antithesis of every I just mentioned. Back in 2016 after the election my mother and sister asked me what I thought about Trump. I told them my number one issue with him is that he's a conspiracy theorist. I told them he would be a cancer on the American brain, and I hate to say that 8 years later I was exactly right.

We now live in a country where nearly half the population thinks the election was stolen. We have a prominent member of Congress who thinks we can control the whether. A few weeks ago FEMA for the first time in it's history had to put up a web page debunking internet conspiracy theories because they were interfering with their disaster relief efforts. And we are now in a political environment where a presidential candidate being charged and convicted makes him more likely to win the election, not less, because half the country thinks it was all a conspiracy against him.

None of this would be possible if not for Trump and it will not get any better till he is out of our politics for good. But that was my 2016 take. 2024 is way, way worse. I could go on about it for another few pages so I'll just say Schedule F. Unlike 4 years of bad policies, a national embarrassment, and the collective lowering of our national IQ, the damage Trump can and likely will do this time around may not be reversible.
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I never can understand this. Trump has said a hundred times he doesn't want a Federal ban.
So when Trump says something we should take him at his word, is that right?
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Yes. 4 years ago, he didn't want it then either.

There's zero chance Congress would get 2/3 consensus on abortion with extreme laws of either total ban or zero restrictions...even if the Congress was 100 percent one party. 

This is purely a fear issue that voters know is a lie. At least enough in the swing states to matter. 

There's also a zero percent chance Congress can pass a bi-partisan bill codifying the original Roe with restrictions in the 2nd trimester because of all the gaslighting about the "enemy within" on both sides.

Nothing's gonna change with abortion the next 4  years. "It's the economy stupid" election again.
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None of this would be possible if not for Trump and it will not get any better till he is out of our politics for good.
There are plenty of patriotic billionaires ready to follow the blueprint in 2028 where the candidate is too rich for the overwhelmingly unpopular political lobbies to purchase. The Democrat party is forever gone the moment they took in the Grand Wizard of lobbies, Dick Cheney. It's never gonna get better. Not by your standards. "Business as usual" is now a historical footnote, never to be seen again after 2028.
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Wow, you and ADOL do have IQ's of 73 like Trump
People with IQ of 60 think that someone with IQ of 70 is smart. This is why many Trump supporters think Trump is smart. To them, IQ of 70 and 160 is same because they cant understand either.
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So when Trump says something we should take him at his word, is that right?
Yes. 
Great, so when he said we should use the military against "radical left lunatics" we should believe him, right?
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I hope so. People are tired of the unchecked burning down of government buildings by political activists.

  1. Minneapolis, MN (2020) - Third Precinct police station burned during George Floyd protests.
  2. Portland, OR (2020) - Hatfield Federal Courthouse and other federal buildings vandalized and damaged.
  3. Seattle, WA (2020) - East Precinct police station attacked and set on fire.
  4. Washington, D.C. (2020) - St. John's Church vandalized, and nearby federal properties damaged during protests.
  5. Philadelphia, PA (2020) - Police precincts and several government buildings vandalized during racial justice protests.
  6. Chicago, IL (2020) - Several police stations damaged during protests following George Floyd's death.
  7. Atlanta, GA (2020) - Atlanta Police Department's Zone 3 precinct was damaged during protests.
  8. Los Angeles, CA (2020) - Several police stations and city buildings were vandalized during protests.
  9. Denver, CO (2020) - Denver Police Department building vandalized during protests against police brutality.
  10. Baltimore, MD (2020) - Various government buildings and police precincts faced damage during protests.
  • Atlanta, GA (2023) - During protests against the construction of a police training facility, some buildings were vandalized, and a police vehicle was set on fire.
  • Sacramento, CA (2021) - Protests related to police violence included damage to a local courthouse.
  • Minneapolis, MN (2021) - Protests erupted again in response to the trial and verdict in the Derek Chauvin case, with some buildings facing vandalism.
  • Phoenix, AZ (2023) - Protests following a police shooting led to damage at local government buildings.
  • Eugene, OR (2022) - Protests against a police-related incident resulted in vandalism and damage to a city building.

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    Only protect government buildings?
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    It's a start. 
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    @Greyparrot
    Did you notice how nobody even questioned the idea that the national guard would be 'weaponized' to 'protect the capitol building'? That's the base level of honesty we need to overcome to beat the left-tribe and the deep state.

    However low they go, follow them down. That's the way war works. Of course Trump needs to deploy the national guard and if necessary the military against the radical left-wing mobs, they're OBVIOUSLY attempting to overthrow the US government (I mean they admitted it several times in that summer of love but I digress). Trump has to do what he has to do to SAVE DEMOCRACY!

    Anyone who questions that, well they're threats to democracy too. See how that works?
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    Nobody bats an eye when police shoot an unarmed woman on Jan 6.

    No wonder people are rebelling against the status quo.
    It makes me cringe to hear people think we can "return to normal"
    That's never going to happen. People want change.


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    So far, all the leftists have said they won't vote for Trump because he's stupid.  There was never a mention of policy EXCEPT for Double R (hats off for at least having the brain to not run off of your emotions on this subject and actually bringing up something like Project 2025, as impossible as it would be).

    Trump all the way.  He's a business man and does not run with  the status quo of a politician.  His 4 years in office (except COVID) was exceptional and starting pulling America into the MAGA status that he claimed.  If I could quote the "great" democratic President that loved to abuse his authority in the Oval Office, "It's the economy, stupid".  He's rude, vulgar and the like, but he can get things done that help the American people as a whole, not just some queer corner of the population.

    Kamala is running off of regulating the economy more and more, while having the Americans to pay for the "price Gauging".  Her policies are overall Socialism and if she is so good, why hasn't the last 4 years already been done like she want the next 4 years to be?  She states, "day 1" but that should have been about 1200 days ago.
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    Making history. I'll credit you as a contribution to it.
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    What liberal doesn't think a conservative is stupid?

    Meanwhile that conservative is several times richer in the bank. Pass on that stupidity.
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    @ADreamOfLiberty
    Is that why you voting for President Trump?
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    Who here believes whatever a politician says or all of it?